Viggo Mortensen’s Girlfriend – Updated
Updated: Still going Strong!
Viggo Mortensen, aka Aragon from the Lord of the Rings, the man who speaks fluent English, Spanish, Danish, and French, but he also speaks Swedish and Norwegian reasonably well is still dating Ariadna Gil.
For 2 years, the couple kept their relationship quiet and behind the scenes, but recently they have shown a lot more PDA. We think this couple is here to stay!
Viggo Mortensen’s Girlfriend
Viggo Mortensen’s girlfriend is a mystery. Showbiz insiders have been asking him who’s the lucky girl he’s dating but he remains silent about it. He just gives them that signature sexy smile and then he gets away with it.
There are some rumors though that his girlfriend is Ariadna Gil, a famous Spanish actress who was seen in the movie Belle Epoque. Viggo Mortensen is seen with her in Spain but the couple is elusive. They keep us guessing.
Well, then that would mean he sleeps with his friend’s wife! But hey, anything goes in Hollywood
She is no longer married to her husband..so maybe they are, he gets her parts in his films….but who knows I hope he has better taste…..
great couple.
I LOVE VIGGO HE WAS HOT N TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE I FORGET WHICH 1 PUT WEN I SEE HIS NAME UNDER CAST IT DOESNT MATTER WAT TIME IT IS I WILL STAY UP 2 WATCH IT AND I HAVE G I JANE ON DVD HE WAS HOT ON THERE 2
i think he’s seeking simple, sweet,thin,easy going girl. it’s difficult
maybe that’s why he’s single.
I have had several chance passings with Viggo and I believe one day when he and I meet and speak, that will be the end for both of us. We are soul mates…ha..ha
I can not believe! She is TOO UGLY for him!!!!!!!
But they only announced last week that she was ending her marriage — she is not divorced yet — so that means then they were having an affair all of this time. That is why he put her in his movie Appaloosa. But this is no big surprise. Hollywood stars always puts their own in their movies and then complains that the government does this. But isn’t it the same thing? If you give away roles to your lovers, children or any other family member, then you took away the role from another who could have gotten it.
Ariadna Gil is not legally divorced yet. I understood the news broke that she and her husband David Trueba were just separated. [ The Dec. edition of Elle {Spain} magazine has an interview with Mrs.Trueba. She states in it about how well she gets along working with her brother- in -law [ a director ] and her husband. Bad timing for this article. ] I thought this interesting… A poster on a Spanish message board made this comment regarding the Trueba’s – they were a private, quiet, unobtrusive couple whom one never heard anything about. No one probably would have known they were even separated if it weren’t for her association with Mr.Mortensen.
Mary Davis. Appaloosa was/is not Mr.Mortensen’s movie. It is Ed Harris’ movie. He was the screenplay author, star and director of the production. I wonder if Ms.Gil receiving her small part in this movie was a ‘required’ contingency from Mr.Mortensen in order for him to take the role?
Until it is “proven” without a shadow of doubt; I will give Ms.Gil/Mr.Mortensen the benefit of the doubt. Even if they are/were not involved it does not change the fact another marriage is breaking up. Who I feel sorrowful for? Her 12 year old daughter and 5 year old son.
You can not believe everything you read or even hear about “Stars”.. Get real.
Sorry folks. He’s gay.
Ain’t that always the way it is. Some foxy guy a girl loves to dream about and he’s gay. Sucks, doesn’t it?
JuMoney
How do you know he is gay?
I think he is very sexy and talented man.In my point of view his girlfriend is not too beautiful,but they are sweet together. By te way the physical appareance is not everything.I do not believe that he is gay.It is ridiculous. have a good day! Bye
I velieve they have been cheating and having an affair – poor David and the two kids……I think Viggo got her into that Ed Harris movie and I believe that Viggo has got her a part in a Danish movie…I think he will get her into English/Hollywood movies too….she isn’t famous outside the Spanish movie world….her husband/brother in law have been the hand that fed her giving her 80% or so of her jobs…I guess now she looks to Vigoo to be the hand that feeds her. They were due to do a play together in Spain, she pulled out because she has decided to spilt with David – even though she must have been cheating on him for a year or so, and then Viggo pulled out claiming his mother is ill – but he was seen in Canada with Ariadna and then in the USA and then in Iceland….so much for his mother being ill……all very odd….I do want to see more pictures of them though…..
I know they were in Iceland, but I have not seen a single article about them in the US or Canada on the Web. Where does this information come from and is it reliable? I have only heard about it in posts.
Viggo in Croatia. Zagreb. Eating at restaurant. Show photos on internet him and two womens. No see their face. Danish movie making has Appaloosa girl in it. Ariadan. I no think she speak Dane. Why a Spanish woman in movie from Denmark country.
Oh but in the picture you can see the one lady has short hair and I think is very much Ariadna – she smokes too and the article mentions that they all smoke. No she does not speak Danish ( I don’t think) but I guess that doesn’t matter…..I think she will show up in many things with a Viggo connection and maybe even in his movies and through his publishing company, which I no longer buy from. I think they have been cheating. I do not think he is gay, but I think she is after real fame and more money.
@ Jackie M
the sighting of viggo in canada said only that viggo was seen in a store with a female companion and there aren’t any sightings in usa. that is something someone has made up to make people think ari was in the usa. viggo was in new york looking after his mom and wasn’t seen with a woman. ari is one of the women in the picture in croatia but according to a translation on one of the viggo boards viggo also spoke to a croatian actor at the restaurant and one of the other actors in the movie is a croatian so there were probably other cast members eating there.
there is one person pretending to be different people posting a lot of the really bad comments all over the internet about viggo and ariadna and responding lots of times using different names on spanish media sites and spanish gossip sites. it is so obvious but she is getting away with it at the moment. adam is her pretending to be a man but lots of people know who she is and she won’t get away with it for ever.
One person? I don’t think one person could do all of this. I think that what might be happening is that since Viggo Mortensen travels to all different countries, the people from those countries are posting what they see. Like him in Iceland or Canada and now Croatia. I feel that if it is not true, either one of them should speak up and publicly denounce it. There is no privacy when you choose to be an actor and you need to take the bitter with the sweet. If you want fame and fortune, then you will also have to take the fans on. After all, it is the fans that give you your paycheck. You owe them something. You didn’t mind uyour fans when you are promoting your movies so that they are coerced into seeing them. They are the ones who keep or not keep you a star. Their is some responsibilty here that should be taken on the part of the actors.
And also, it does look sort of suspicious that you tell everyone you are dropping out of a play in Spain because of a seriously ill mother, but yet wind up traveling to all different countries and then POSSIBLY being spotted with this woman, who also dropped out of the same play that her husband or his family (?) was involved in with the production. Of course, people are going to say it is because Ariadna cheated on her husband with Viggo and they were both thrown off the play. Is her husband saying anything publicly? And yes it is also strange that they are both in Croatia getting ready to film. THAT certainly is no coincidence. It is not like they are filming in a very famous place for films — like New York or Los Angeles — but Croatia?? What are the odds?
WHO CARES!!??? Yes, it is obviously her in the picture. Yes, she cheated on her husband. Yes, Viggo is a homewrecker.
WHO CARES??!!
Hollywood is ridiculously filled with liars, cheats, whores (both men and women) and just psychologically damaged people. It seems to be the only types who enter that career. If these people were your co-workers or neighbors in real life, you wouldn’t even give them the time of day. Why, oh why, because they make movies are they are glorified and spoken about as if people know them personally? I mean for chrisssakes, Angelina Jolie is our global representative for peace? Jennifer Aniston, Cameron Diaz. Oprah, Paris Hilton and Viggo Mortensen tell us who to vote for?? I for one would love to see Hollywood disappear. Maybe then we can make intelligent decisions regarding our lives based on OUR OWN LIVES?? And stop listening to these ill-bred Hollywood idiots for our life choices? Geez.
I think Ariadna Gil is trying to stay out of Spain and keep a low profile because of what is happening with Viggo. I think Viggo is helping her get work, in order to keep her out of Spain and help her keep a low profile…..he sure did manage to get in loads of overseas trips while he was suppossed to be in Clayton, NY looking after his ill mother…so I think he did lie, both of them. They are as bad as each other.
As for one person doing all the messages, I think perhaps people have just realised his actions have gone against his words and his words are meaningless. Perhaps more fans than you realise have moral and ethical views when it comes to relationships, infidality, respect for others and especially children etc and they are standing by their views and morals and not simply favouring Viggo because he is rich and famous…many Viggo fans will change their views and attitudes to stay in tune with what they think Viggo would want so that he is always in favour with them.
I no longer give them the benefit of the doubt. I am eating a bite of crow. That would be San Lorenzo de Amalgro cuervo.
Thank you Helena for your reply. Sums up perfectly how I feel about the situation.
I think they have been having an affair for a while (several years) and being that Ariadna came out of the play so suddenly I think perhaps that her husband discovered the truth, she has sent packing, David has the children (11 yrs & 5yrs). I think Viggo knows very well what he has done, but I think he has the Hollywood attitude he can do what he likes, he has clearly given no thought to the children, or shown respect to David Trueba. I am shocked that given everything Viggo has always said, that he has does this. He has lost all my respect and support. I stand by my ethics and morals and not by an actor. I think Viggo’s behaviour has been awful, disrespectful, distastful and disgusting. Whatever happens between then will happen, but part of me hopes it goes sour and Ariadna can see Viggo’s other side – the side that Josie D’Arby saw. I also think it will look sad, desperate and pathetic when Ariadna only shows up in things with a Viggo connection (Danish movies etc or in smaller roles in his films like Appalossa)…..I think she will do very well career/money wise out of Viggo – I only wonder what he is getting from it. Sadly I don’t like him any more, he is NOT the kind of man he claims to be…….I think the fans know it too, but many are instead just re-living the older, nicer Viggo they remember and want to remember and are ignoring what is going on, but sooner or later as Viggo and Ariadna make it more obvious the fans won’t be able to deny what is going on and has been for sometime. Viggo no longer gets my money, respect or anything.
@Helena Can you elaborate on what you meant about Josie D’Arby and Viggo?
Helena:
Although I agree with most of your post, you seem to be putting most of the responsibility for this on Viggo. I am not trying to defend him because if all this is indeed true then he does have responsibility for it, but at the same time, he was not the one who is married, with small children at home. I think more of the fault goes to the person that was unfaithful to their spouse. Single people have been hitting on married people forever. It is the responsibility of the married person to say no. Again the other person has blame also, but in my opinion the married person more. I know some of you will not agree, but I welcome discussion.
I will discuss it with you Lizzie. It is my opinion they are both equally responsible. It takes two to tango. It is possible that she came onto him. Sometimes a single man chooses a married woman as there will less likely be the issue of a permanent commitment.
Anybody thought that perhaps Viggo never intended for this affair to reach the level it did? He did not want her to leave her husband. ( I’m not taking up for him.) Maybe his intention all along was to move to Madrid just to be near her and be able to star in that play with her along with getting her other movie roles in productions outside of Spain. Her husband found out and the whole situation blew up in both of their faces.Rightfully so I might add.
Those pictures of them taken in December in Madrid, he doesn’t seem to be upset at being photographed, he just does not look happy. The Zagreb, Croatia photo, the man does not look happy,not at peace. For a man who values his private life; when did Viggo Mortensen begin issuing press releases regarding his whereabouts on a vacation? (sounds like that came from her publicist camp.)
I hope I am proven wrong. Again. I predict this relationship will not last. I believe Viggo Mortensen will rue the day he met her and regret his association with Ariadna Gil.
I think both are in the wrong (very wrong) but I think for me – when I read Viggo interviews – he always implied he would never be the type of person to break a relationship or go after someone unavailable (especially if there were small children involved) because it “just wasn’t him” as he had “so much respect for people and marriage” etc….I think – again from my point of view – the “my mother is ill I need to be by her side at this time” and then he skips off to Canada, Iceland and Croatia and has now signed up to TWO films one after the other…suggests his mother wasn’t “so ill” just perhaps old……as for the Josie D’arby, I have always believed he spent the weekend with her in a french hotel and that he denied it publicly even saying “I never saw her after London” and yet the pictures were of him and her (she was right behind him, heading in the same direction into the car – not walking past as fans have claimed) in Paris right outside the hotel….he lied so plainly and no one picked him up on the pictures…..I think he is showing some true colours, he is a man who blows his own trumpet a lot. I don’t think it will last but I think Ariadna will get a lot of contacts and jobs from him and it will boost her fame and money…..heavens know what he will get from it – a headache? I doubt she will come out against him or be nasty….but I could imagine he denying everything! But for now I think she will be his shadow, turning up in his films or in films with a strong Viggo connection…..it all seems very sad to me and I think fame and money has changed Viggo greatly to the negative…that I find sad also. But I guess for now with both their deceit and lies and greed to some extent – they suit each other.
Veronica
I agree with you. I never thought of it that way. We don’t know these people personally, so all this is speculation, but what we do know of VM is that he travels a great deal and does not seem to be in one place more than a few weeks. This does not seem to be the best person for a serious committed relationship with someone that has small children to raise. He always seems like such a free spirit it seems strange to think of him dealing with step kids, in-laws, the kid’s father and living in one place. But of course I don’t know him and could be totally wrong. One thing I do believe (and some might disagree) is that there is no way that AG is the only one. If he is in LA or NY and sees someone he wants I think he will go for it. If you are someone that sees nothing wrong with infidelity than you will do it again. What goes around will always come around. She will get some movie roles out of him though. These are just my thoughts.
I saw the video of him honoring Dennis Hopper. Viggo was still wearing the heart pin on his label that he gave to Ariadna’s character in Appaloosa. Why does he wear it? And wear it still? That movie was years ago. What significance could it possibly have other than he is letting Ariadna know he is thinking about her when they are apart. And now he is in Argentina today. What happened to his ill mother? That makes four different countries he has been spotted in since he told the media he had to drop out of the play in Spain because of a seriously ill mother. And now it is proven that he has lied about being at his mother’s side because obviously he is NOT at his mother’s side. So why wouldn’t he cheat as well?
Ladyjones-It’s strange that he would be loyal to her under the circumstances. I have to agree with most of you on here. I am sadly disillusioned about this man. I looked up to him because of who I thought he was, but I always harbored this suspicion that he may be a little too good to be true. Always trust your gut. I now know why he has always been so adamant about keeping his “private life private”. His actions don’t fit with his public image and now he’s losing fans. He could always afford to be picky about his movies because he knew we fans would follow. He’ll have to play the Hollywood game now and go for more mainstream work to keep working. Maybe that’s what AG hoped for. Who knows. It’s always interesting to watch someone fall from grace, although in this case it seems so very very sad. I have to be honest, when I see someone act so holy and righteous in public while doing this behind closed doors, I don’t care to see them be happy.
As a last thought on this, celebrities, politicians, anyone in the public eye always try to deny their affairs which so often turn out to be true. Where there’s smoke there’s fire, and if you don’t want everyone to be looking in the direction of your inferno, don’t get into a profession where your job depends on getting people’s attention.
Viggo is a camelion, one minute here, the next minute there
we never know or see his true color. Think he is for sure with AG as for the past few years, he has gone from his perceval page writing sweet verse of poetry to writing pages of spanish, which we no speak or read, guess who else understands this AG No word on hearing AG being around in Hildago territory, Viggo’s North Idaho home
That is a place I can’t picture her living in ever However, I do think they are together, Vig going back and forth Spain to S. America etc all the time, you do the math I don’t think they will last, he is too complex for such class
Ladyjones and MJ, I agree with what you have said except for the heart pin. I have read so much about this pin. I heard that VM was given this pin by an artist during the filming of Good. He often wears pins, bracelets and necklaces. Many of his lapel pins are also San Lorenzo pins. I think he might have thought the heart was more appropriate for Dennis’s tribute than a soccer pin. I just find it hard to believe that a middle aged man in his fifties is fooling around with lapel pins and sending secret love messages to his middle aged girlfriend. Some nuts on the other boards that absolutely worship his every move also believe he uses Perceval Press to send AG secret messages in his posts. They try to pick apart every line and poem as some kind of secret signal between the two of them. This seems like something teens would do, not these two. They must lie in bed, read this stuff about their secret messages and explode with laughter. Besides he longer needs to sneak around anymore now that she is separated. I have also heard that VM brings in some of his own props to the movie sets. That is probably were the heart came from. Just my thought, feel free to disagree.
the heart pin is one of several given to the whole cast and crew of Good by the producer, miriam segal. when he wore it to the dennis hopper event i think he wore it for dennis not ariadna. when he wore it in new york and hungary for Good and to the road premiere at the london film festival i think he wore it for miriam because she was at all those events. he didn’t wear it to the bafta event the night after the road premiere. what does that say? did he argue with ariadna on the phone and not wear it because they weren’t speaking? other times he wears it because he thinks it appropriate for those times. he used it as a prop on appaloosa but people who want him to have a thing with ariadna want to read more into it than there really is and they keep trying to convince everyone else.
i keep reading comments from people telling us he wears it because he is in love with ariadna.. when did he tell those people that. are they all on a list of people who he makes sure to tell what is going on in his private life. i think not. the pro-ariadna group are just trying to make everyone believe it because it is what they want for him but not necessarily what is fact.
i think he and ariadna are very close friends and that he may have helped her after she got the danish movie part which i think was the real reason she pulled out of the play. it was reported that she had schedulling problems and that was the reason for her pulling out. i don’t think he has the clout to get her very much work in hollywood anyway. he really ain’t that big a big name in hollywood and most directors would tell him to get lost if he tried to get ariadna parts.
ZsuZsa:
Does this mean you think they are just very good friends and her marriage broke up on its own? I don’t believe we ever really found out the truth of who that was in Iceland. I never read that it was definitely AG and we don’t know about Canada. But that was her in Croatia. Why do you think they just don’t come out and deny it? They are getting some bad press in Spain. If it is not true, VM has denied his relationships with Josie D’Arby and Christina Rosenvinge, so it is something he has done before. I think it is the silence that causes people to speculate that it is true. You are right that a lot of fans on the other sites want VM and AG together for some reason. They think it is all so wonderful even if it broke up her marriage. They never speak about her kids, just how wonderful love is! I think they are absolutely out of their minds. The person Viggo is with might be someone we don’t even know. The press by the way is now starting up the romance with Christina Rosenvinge again. They are saying that they are together even though she denies it; others say it is a cover up for AG. She is in Argentina for a concert the same time he is there for the San Lorenzo Chapel dedication. I welcome your thoughts ZsuZsa or anyone else.
By the way he is wearing the heart pin again (in Argentina) and they are all soooo happy. But he has on the same suit as LA and probably just never removed it or had it cleaned!
Thanks for your clarification Helena, but the more I read about V’s personal life the more I’m confused about him. I’ve been a fan of his for years and years and if recent gossip is to be believed, I am led to think he’s a philandering calculating homewrecker?
I think i’ll leave the speculation to others and continue to enjoy Viggo’s work.
@ Lizzie H
it means i am intelligent enough not to let a few pictures and sightings and nonsense over a pin that was given to him by someone completely different to the woman that people assume he is wearing it for cloud my judgement and until it is known as fact whether they are a couple or not I choose to keep an open mind about it.
viggo never named christina in any denial. he made a general reference to how he has to explain to his family and friends that no he isn’t with a person when they read something in a gossip column. christina is the one who denied it and only when she was asked by a reporter as she arrived for a concert in madrid. she shook her head, smiled and said no. viggo had let the story run on and if christina hadn’t been asked outright then she would have too. has it occured to anyone that at the time viggo made his general statement his name had also been linked to ariadna for many years and so he could have been referring to one or both women with that statement. the silence from viggo about the ariadna story is probably because if ariadna and david have split then it is their story to tell and up to them to make an annoucement which they might be waiting to do after she has finished filming or they might never do. they are/were a very private couple and may want to deal with it privately. it is david and ariadna’s marriage that is supposed to be in trouble and it isn’t viggo’s place to say anything until either david or ariadna or both let it be known in public. maybe they haven’t said anything because it is a trial separation. has anyone even considered that possibility?
no-one knows exactly who was in iceland only that it wasn’t just viggo and a supposed girlfriend. it might have been ariadna but i don’t think it automatically means a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship but the people who would like it to be true will make a case for it being the only possible explanation. if it was a romantic holiday then why go as a group?
viggo was also in zagreb but was also then seen in vienna two days later. the day he was seen in zagreb was the first day of the shoot. it is possible that he was in europe to do some research for the cronenberg movie and just went to zagreb while he was there to offer his support to ariadna at the start of the shoot. according to sources there were other actors from the movie in the restaurant that same night and viggo spoke to at least one of them so it was by no means a romantic dinner for two and we have no proof that they shared a hotel room either in iceland or zagreb.
the madrid pictures are also being made out to be more than they are. why did viggo have his mac-book with him to go out to buy a morning paper with ariadna and why did he arrive with a suitcase two days later with ariadna carrying a morning paper when he was on his way back to the states to spend time with his mother. obviously he wasn’t staying with her or he would have been leaving her house with a suitcase that day instead of arriving with one. he was probably on his way to the airport and she had maybe offered to take him there so he arrived at her house with the suitcase from his own apartment which he has owned for a long time ready for her to take him to the airport. but people who want it to be more will not see the obvious explanation and will want to make more of it and also make you believe there is more to it.
i know he is wearing the heart pin in argentina. did it occur to anyone that maybe he is wearing it to show his love and appreciation for san lorenzo? has it ever occured to anyone that when viggo told someone the heart pin represented love that he meant love in general and not love for just one person. when he wore it for some of the road promotions he was talking at press conferences about that being about a love story between the man and the boy. when he wore it for good promotions he wore it for miriam and when he wore it for appaloosa he wore it because the story was about the deep friendship and love between the two friends. but i guess if someone wants to perpetuate stories about viggo and ariadna, it is convenient to use the heart pin as proof just because his character gave it to her character in the movie. so on the times when he doesn’t wear it and wears a different pin does that mean they have had an argument and aren’t talking? if so then they must have had an awful lot of arguments because over the past eighteen months he has worn his san lorenzo pin more than he has worn the heart pin but people only comment when he does wear it and ignore the times when he doesn’t.
like i said, i am keeping a very open mind and wil probably be one of the few people who wouldn’t be surprised if it all turns out to be untrue.
ZsuZsa, I really enjoy your posts. You present a informed perspective. Thanks for your imput. I guess time will tell if any of this is true.
No, I read on one of his die-hard fanatical websites that that is the pin he gave to Ariadna in the movie “Appaloosa”, not from the movie “Good”. You even see his character giving her character the heart pin in the movie “Appaloosa”. So that is proof that that is where the pin comes from. Why would you argue with what your eyes see in black and white? That makes no sense.
And he has proven that he is not by his mother’s side because guess what? HE IS NOT BY HIS MOTHER’S SIDE!! He is jumping all around the globe and has signed on for another movie already. Again, this is FACT, not speculation. So why did he lie about the spanish play?
And if he is not with Ariadna, then he has been without a girlfriend for years now. Because no matter how hard any actor tries to keep their relationships private, the reporters ALWAYS find out. If he has been with her for the past three years, then he has been celibate all these years because he would have been spotted with someone. We all knew about his previous girlfriend Lola Schnabel. He would not talk publicly about her either (probably because she was half his age!), but there were photos of them all over the place. You cannot hide a relationship in Hollywood, especially globally, someone always has a camera or knows someone who knows someone and it all gets out anyway.
I meant to say “if he has NOT been with her for the past three years, then he has been calibate….”
And serously, spanish love poems always being posted on his website?
@ ladyjones
yes hitch gave the heart to katie in appaloosa but it was the pin given to all the cast of good by miriam segal. the site on which you read that it was not from good are wrong. jason issacs told the story when he was promoting. he has one too as do the entire cast and crew. it was given to viggo by miriam and then viggo used it in appaloosa which was made after good. i heard jason tell the story in person and then it was printed in an article later so that site are wrong.
i don’t need my eyes to tell me because jason issacs already did and it was a token from miriam.
I feel the need to repost this.
As a last thought on this, celebrities, politicians, anyone in the public eye always try to deny their affairs which so often turn out to be true. Where there’s smoke there’s fire, and if you don’t want everyone to be looking in the direction of your inferno, don’t get into a profession where your job depends on getting people’s attention.
Ladyjones, it is true that we have not seen Viggo with many women in public over the years. Since his divorce from Exene in the 1990’s, there was Lola in 2002 and only Ariadna and Christina in 2009-2010 and Christina has denied it. He has only been seen out with Ariadna Gil and never anyone in the USA. I think this is the reason for the gay rumors that have been circulating in Hollywood for years. But I don’t believe those rumors. I think the reason we have heard of these women is because they are somewhat famous. He could very well be dating women in the art world and in the management end of movie making that are not famous and that no one recognizes. He also stays away from Los Angeles these days and places were the paparazzi would hang out. He also seems to go out in groups to throw the gossips off track. The last thing I think he is would be celibate. I personally believe he has been with AG all these years, but not just her. I have said this before, I think if he is outside of Spain and sees someone he wants he will go for it. Just my thoughts.
Viggo is named in break up of David and Ariadna. She cut her hair so she could not do play and Viggo say he not do play he say he mother ill but I think not. I think they know what goes on and plan this.
I don’t belive for a minute that just because we haven’t seen/heard of a woman in Viggo’s life over the past years, there haven’t been any….we know Josie D’aby was a weekend job…how many others have simply been one nighters……again people are assuming he doesn’t do one night stands….which is why they are assuming he wouldn’t break up a relationship/marriage…but I think we are all wrong, I think he does do one night stands…..
I don’t belive he is or has dated Christina Roseinvinge (sp?) I don’t think he likes blondes….but he may have “used” her to get used to two children ages 10 and 5 when Ariadna’s are 12 and 4 or whatever…..Ariadna is working on the film that Viggo got her a part in hence she wasn’t in Argentina. She was in Canada and Iceland simply because the filming hadn’t started at that time……I think she will shadow Viggo only when she isn’t working on films he has found her! Or she will turn up in his films, or he will publish a book by her or something…..I think there is still a lot more to be played out with Viggo and Ariadna – they will never say anything to anyone publicly…..but I believe they are together for sure….. feel and think it is very sad for him. As someone else said the fans seem to think Viggo and Ariadna go together well but they forget about her children….it is not simply about the two of them – there are far more people invovled……I don’t think either have been honest or are being honest……it’s sad.
ZsuZsa, I know you believe there is a possibility that they are just good friends, but for the rest of you guys, what do you think the odds are of AG actually getting him to the alter one day after her divorce is final? I would be the jackpot for her. What do you think? Or is he finished with marriage?
@ Lizzie H
all i said was i choose to keep an open mind about it and that i think people read too much into isolated incidents. for instance, you say she was in canada with him. i saw the blog on which that was originally posted. all it said was that viggo mortensen was spotted shopping with a female companion. it is just across the border from where his mother lives. it could have been ariadna but equally, it could have been a family member or a friend. he has many friends in canada from his youth. where did anyone say it was actually ariadna? people jump to conclusions without all the facts.
@ Mus
where does it say anywhere that viggo has been named other than on gossip sites and fan sites? have you seen a divorce petition naming viggo as co-respondent? if not, then you are basing that asumption on what you have read on the internet rumor-mill.
@ JennyJ
i don’t believe for a moment that he would have used christina. they go back as friends to the mid-nineties and he is god-father to one of her children. he might sink low but not that low. he doesn’t have as many scruples as some might think but i doubt he would use his god-son or his good friend.
people, you all need to keep an open mind and see how it plays out for sure. there may be something in the rumors or there may not but at this stage everyone is jumping on the bandwagon and jumping to conclusions often based on conclusions that others have reached.
Lizzie H.,
I don’t think he is finished with marriage. I just don’t see him marrying Ariadna Gil. If they have been carrying on an affair for a long time [as many of us suspect] before she separated from her husband; this relationship has consisted of here and there trysts and a lot of sneaking around. How can you really know a person until you live with them day in day out for at least 3 to 6 months? I think this supposed ‘chemistry attraction’ these two have is just that – physical only and a shared profession. Viggo Mortensen in an interview once talked about how falling in love with a co-star (He was referring to the Exene relationship) was a lot like being on drugs and after you’ve come down off of the high that is when the true reality of your relationship sets in. These two might well find out they really share little in common. I just can’t picture Ariadna living in a remote Idaho location, attending San Lorenzo soccer games nor going fly fishing. These activities seem to be quite important to him.
Zsuzsa,
” he doesn’t seem to have as many scruples as some might think. ” I’ve got a few ideas of my own about why I think he is unscrupulous. [nothing to do with Ariadna] What makes you think this of him?
@ Lizie H
i didn’t say completely unscrupulous, just not with as many scruples as people might like to think and unfortunately i am not at liberty to say why.
my previous comment should have been @ Veronica not LizzieH
Thanks Zsuzsa for your reply. ‘Not at liberty to say why’….Interesting.
@Veronica and ZsuZsa:
Come on guys; spill the beans about the scruples. We won’t tell anyone. ………Only kidding!
Veronica, I think they would probably live in Madrid most of the time. He seems to be there a lot more than Idaho or LA. I do not think that would be a deterrent. Plus she has young children. Unless she decides to give up everything for VM (which is possible) then she would need to live in Spain when not filming. If you are married or in a committed relationship, it cannot survive on a few vacations, you need to live together.
If these rumors are true and she left her marriage of 15 or so years for VM, she must have gotten some kind of commitment or security from him. Unless she is absolutely nuts a woman would not walk out on a marriage (and do that to her children) for a man that lives out of a suitcase and is never in one place for more than a few weeks. She must have a commitment from him to at least live together with a possible marriage in the future. I am sure with all she has to gain from VM that she is already in love with San Lorenzo and will learn to fly fish real soon. I think he is crazy to get involved in a mess like this when there are so many wonderful women in this world that he can have. A faithful one for instance, but the heart wants what it wants. This of course is all speculation, I do not know if any of it is true.
Veronica,
I agree with you.
Lizzie,
I think there may have been other problems with David and AG, and this helped her make a final out.
I do not see this relationship lasting. There’s just something about seeing the two of them together that dosen’t seem right. They don’t seem to fit. My gut says they aren’t right for each other. Also, I have heard many things over the years from reliable sources that indicate that Viggo has a pattern of going for women already in relationships, including non-famous ones. Maybe it’s a fear of commitment, maybe it’s an ego boost to steal women away. All in all, this is the straw that breaks the back for me. I’ve heard enough. I finally have to accept what he really is.
MJ, you could be right. It has been suggested that maybe VM liked the previous arrangement and did not want her to leave her husband. It has also been said that she did not leave the marriage, but that David found out about the affair and he left her. I have heard this quite a bit from the Spanish sites. We really do not know the truth. But I can’t see a woman give up so much unless she has a commitment from the other man. Unless the rich and famous do not need security and commitment like the rest of us? Who knows?
Goodness I hope they don’t get married – as long as Viggo is supplying her with any jobs – the relationship is wrong. As so many others have said – they just don’t seem right for each other and I can’t help notice that any pictures we have seen of Viggo since Christmas he has looked as rough as hell, awful, I have never seen him look so bad…..which suggests something isn’t right……
I hope he actually knows what he is doing…..because for now it does look like he is simply getting Ariadna jobs….what is this payment in kind for sexual favours?!!!!! lol
@ lizzie h
I disagree with you about marriage. If AG was married that long, she might not want to get married anytime soon. She might just want to promote her career and have a good time. As long as VM gets her jobs and contacts she might not care what he does or that he is a rootless wanderer.
@Jackie
We will just have to wait and see what happens in the relationship
@ZsuZsa
I think VM does have clout in Hollywood, though not as much as others. He does have friends such as Ed Harris that would give a part to AG as we have seen before. I think David Cronenberg would give her a part if VM asked. It will be interesting to see if she pops up in Eastern Promises 2. Too bad she might take a part away from someone who really deserves it.
i don’t believe for a moment that david cronenberg would give ariadna a part just because viggo asked him to. the one thing you can say about david is that he has a vision and sticks with it. unless eastern promises 2 needs a spanish actress and unless david felt that she were the right person i don’t believe he would give a part to her just to keep viggo happy.
viggo is a small fish in a big pond when it comes to hollywood. he might have more clout when he is in the smaller, indie productions he seems to favour but i think he missed his chance to be big in hollywood and his career is on the wane now.
@ZsuZsa
I am sticking with my original opinion that a part just perfect for AG will be found in Eastern Promises 2. David and VM are close friends. I don’t think it will be a major part as Naomi Watts had in the original, but a lesser one. I don’t think it would cloud David’s vision if she is given a small role. As for being Spanish, actors change their accents all the time. But we must wait and see the movie. If I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it. Or should I say eat “cuervo.”
My my, you all certainly seem to have it out for Ariadna! Perhaps you do not know that she has been in the movie business as long as Viggo has been in it – over 20 years, since she was 17 years old. She has already done films in the U.S. and Argentina and Venezuela before she ever met Viggo Mortensen. She has a good international reputation as an actress.
As for Viggo getting her parts in movies – where is proof of this? According to the commentary on Appaloosa by Ed Harris, Ariadna had to audition for the part of Katie just like everyone else. She just happened to fit the description of the character who is a Spanish / Native American woman. Ed said that she and Viggo worked well together because they were “buddies” and had worked together before. But there were a lot of friends and family involved in Appaloosa because Ed had a very low budget and they needed to get cheap actors. Viggo had another friend in the cast of Appaloosa – Scott Wannaberg – a 40ish overweight man. Geez, maybe Viggo was having an affair with Scott too, until Scott got sick and had to leave. Or maybe what really happened is Scott left in a jealous rage over Arianda.
The Danish movie – just what connection does Viggo have to anyone on the production staff? Oh that’s right – Viggo has Danish relatives; therefore he has so much clout in Danish cinema that he can tell a director how to cast his movie! Did you know the script of this Danish movie is about a bunch of international travelers stuck in a hotel and they have to overcome cultural differences in order to survive. So yeah, it makes sense there is a Spaniard in a Danish movie.
Do any of you know Arianda Gil personally? Did you know she is described by other cast-mates as a very kind and generous person who will go out of her way to help people? Do you really know why her marriage is having problems? Perhaps David was cheating on Ariadna long before Viggo came along, then she meets this polite, handsome, kind actor who treats her with respect and affection and she realizes, “Hey, this is pretty nice!” I’ve seen pictures of Viggo and Arianda during the promotions of Alatriste and Appaloosa, and it seems clear to me that Viggo is very affectionate with Ariadna, while she is being more reserved. The way he looks at her – my God, what I would give to have a man look at me with such adoration! What woman wouldn’t be moved, and tempted, by such sweetness? Especially a woman who was in an unhappy marriage. It’s totally opposite of pictures I see of Ariadna with David Trueba – where they don’t even get close to one another or touch.
As for Viggo, I am a big fan of his work, and I do admire a lot of what he says and does, but I do not believe he is a morally perfect man. Exene was several months pregnant with Henry when they got married. There are documented accounts of Viggo “sharing a tent” with a woman in Poland while shooting the Gospel of Harry, and that was before his divorce from Exene in 1997. Of course they were separated for at least five years before they legally divorced. I certainly don’t believe Viggo is celibate just because he doesn’t have a “girlfriend”. He’s said in interviews that he’s fine not being married but he won’t rule it out. That pretty much tells me that he likes being single so he can be free to play the field. He shouldn’t be married if that’s the case.
As for Viggo and Ariadna having an affair – it’s highly possible. The woman who was his “girlfriend” in Iceland did have short dark hair and dark skin according to an eye witness who twittered about seeing them. Did it start before her separation from David Trueba? Show me proof, not gossip.
All I see in pictures of Viggo and Ariadna are two friends. There are no intimate displays of affection other than Viggo’s friendly affection that he shows to ALL his friends – including male friends. In fact, Viggo shows more romantic gestures to David Cronenberg than he has ever shown to Ariadna Gil! And DC is a married man. I don’t hear any gasps of gossip there.
Whatever is really happening between Viggo and Ariadna, I think Viggo has already commented on it when he said last December “My private life belongs to only me.” I don’t really agree with him, but that’s how he sees it, so why say more? Perhaps because there is a whole world of people who want to see and say the ugliest things they can about people they don’t even know. These people will treat him and his friends as objects to be ridiculed and judged, rather than people who have feelings, hurts and weaknesses. These people don’t care that there are children who will hear these accusations, and possibly be be teased and bullied because of them. These people don’t stop to think about what they would feel if faced with the same temptations and/or accusations.
I don’t put Viggo Mortensen on a pedestal, but I also don’t put him on a spit and roast him over a fire of criticism. What I will do is pray for him and Ariadna and stop to think “There but for the grace of God, go I.”
I know Viggo personally and live where he is right now. He is the nicest most sincere person who is a good friend to all of us in our small town. We know his family and that his devotion to them comes first and not to Hollywood and all of its gossip. He eats, shops, exercises with us, always takes time to ask how we are doing and what is going on in our lives. He is a member of all of our familys and maybe because we treat him with respect and don’t care what is going on in his personal life he chooses to stay in a town with “real people”
Thank you Stryder for giving us an honest view of Viggo. I have observed the same sincere person you have, only from a distance, and that is why I refuse to tear him apart with gossip.
I’m glad you mentioned about his family. Nothing steams me more than these people who say he lied about his mother’s illness to get out of doing a play. It would take a cold, heartless bastard to do such a thing, and that is definitely not Viggo. He may have his faults, but none that bad. What do these people want? Her obituary? Her medical records? Someone here said earlier “I can’t help notice that any pictures we have seen of Viggo since Christmas he has looked as rough as hell, awful, I have never seen him look so bad…..which suggests something isn’t right……” Geez, did you stop to think maybe he’s going through hell because his mom is seriously sick and maybe dying?!
As for his traveling all over the world, from what I know from a pretty reliable source, he didn’t go anywhere until late January, and then it was just an evening trip up to Montreal for a hockey game, only a couple hours drive away from his mom’s home in NY. For all we know, his mom could have said “Honest Son, I’m feeling better. Now get out of the house for a while before you drive me up a wall!” Maybe his brothers were able to come visit their mom and give Viggo some respite. Perhaps he was able to hire a live-in nurse to help her. YOU DON’T KNOW so stop talking like you do.
All we really have to go on is how Viggo presents himself to others, what friends and cast-mates say about him, and what he writes in his poetry. All that I have seen over the past few years is a polite, thoughtful, kind and generous person who is known throughout the movie industry as an extreme professional who gives his all to any project he works on. He does not profess to be perfect and holy. He’s been honest in interviews about his desires and dalliances – but as a gentleman he doesn’t give names. He’s on a journey like the rest of us, making mistakes and hopefully learning from them as he goes along.
If he’s had an affair with a married woman, I’d consider that a big mistake. I don’t condone his actions, but I don’t condemn him either. I’m not in a place to do so. None of us are, really. Think about it. Unless we can speak with him 1 on 1 and see his heart, we don’t have the right. Only God knows truly what is in Viggo’s heart.
Remember what Jesus said about the woman who was caught in adultery about to be stoned by a mob – “Let him who has no sin cast the first stone.” Everyone dropped their rocks because they knew they had their own sins. You’ve got ‘em too. So instead of spending your time picking on Viggo and Arianda, who you don’t even know, go examine your own lives to see how you can be better. Drop your rocks and leave Viggo and Ariadna to heaven.
@ lionheart
You said “My my, you all certainly seem to have it out for Ariadna!”
did you actually read any of my posts? i think not or you wouldn’t have included me in the “all”. i never made any remark that could be construed as criticism i just laid out some facts and told people that in my opiniion they were jumping to conclusions based on one sick persons efforts to spread the vitriol around the internet.
from one of my previous posts if you had taken the time and talen it in :-
“there is one person pretending to be different people posting a lot of the really bad comments all over the internet about viggo andariadna and responding lots of times using different names on spanish media sites and spanish gossip sites. it is so obvious but she is getting away with it at the moment. adam is her pretending to be a man but lots of people know who she is and she won’t get away with it for ever”.
you are free to comment and defend both ariadna and viggo but don’t give the impression that everyone who has commented here has the knives out for them. i gave a completely unbiased opinion as to who is perpetuating rumors and remarked that it is one person who is spreading the nastiness.
for what it is worth however, if there has been an affair then there is likely to be some backlash from the public whether you like it or not as both are public figures and the press love to delve into private lives and bash celebrities who are found to be less than perfect. what makes you think these two would come out of it completely unscathed whether they are nice people or not? when has a celebrity, politician, athlete, royalty or anyone else in the public eye ever got away with having an affair without comment or backlash. tiger woods as an example, prince charles was villified for his affair with camilla, bill clinton was impeached as i recall, and british soccer player john terry recently lost the captaincy of the english soccer team for cheating on his wife. what makes you think viggo and/or ariadna will be immune from the same treatment from some of the press and public?
I am a fan of viggo’s films and looking forward to the talking cure and ep 2. I come here sometimes to see what he is up to but I was totally unprepared for these posts. Why is everyone so crazed over viggo and this actress? You are praying for them? With all that is going on in this world you can’t think of anything else? It looks like he had an affair with a married woman and she left her husband. This story is as old as the hills. It happens every 5 minutes in Hollywood and Europe. So why pick on them. I am not trying to say it isn’t wrong, but we don’t live in perfect world. Celebrities are far from it. Sure if she was unhappy with her husband, she should have left him, and not cheat, especially if children are involved. But we should not care, because in the end we still have to get up and go to work and pay our bills. I choose to enjoy his films, read a little gossip here and there, but get on with my own life and not dwell on someone I don’t even know. I hope you all do the same. Leave this poor guy alone.
One last thing, children are affected by the actions of their parents. Don’t blame the people on the internet if their kids read something about them on the web. If you have children you have a responsibility to be a role model to them. You can’t blame others.
excuse me but the people who started this were the press who printed the pictures and wrote articles based on those pictures and who then posted them on the internet for comment. don’t blame people who then comment and give their own views on the subject. it is exactly what the gutter press wanted in the first place. they were the ones sneaking around outside ariadna’s home.
Thankyou Lionheart. Viggos mom is doing just fine. She’s a beautiful lady who has been a member of our community for a long time. People , especially those who are under 50, ( Iam 54) don’t yet realize that your priorities change as you age. Things that used to matter don’t anymore. We wake up one morning and feel our mortality and all of a sudden you realize what is really important to you. For most of us, Viggo included, the every day crap that we have allowed to rule our lives goes to the toilet. Our family members have aged and gotten ill and now we want to spend quality time taking care of them. You and I can do that and no one says a damn thing . But Viggo gets called a liar and chastised for wanting to take some down time and be with his family. He loves his family and they will always come first. That is what makes him a great human being. The rest of the should take a lesson from him.
Thanks Stryder for letting us know Viggo’s mom is doing better. I’ve been praying for her too, but there was no way to know how she was doing. I kinda figured she had improved since Viggo is going back to work. I’ve very glad to hear it.
Zsueza – I apologize for not mentioning you in my first post as seperate from the “you all”. I did notice your posts as standing out from the crowd with good information and an open mind. I do appreciate it. I’m sorry that you felt offended.
I got to admit I wrote my earlier posts in a gush of upset emotions. I stumbled upon this site unexpectedly while surfing the web during a bout of insomnia. I knew stuff was being said about the whole Ariadna thing, but I pretty much stayed away from it. While reading these posts it just hurt my heart to read the mean and ugly things that were being said – and so much of it unjustified and based on gossip.
I’ll be honest – I’ve struggled for a long time with feelings of disappointment, disillusionment, even anger at the thought that Viggo might have broken up Ariadna’s marriage with an adulterous affair. I care about this man because years ago I saw a goodness, humility and thoughtfulness in him that is very rare in Hollywood. I’ve watched him grow and blossom in his career and as a person. For many reasons, he stands out to me as a kindred spirit, so I’ve prayed for him (as I do for a lot of people), cheered him on, and yes, I’ve disagreed with him. There are times he really frustrates me with his seemingly one-sided opinions and I’ve written to him at Perceval Press and respectfully challenged him. Although he’s never directly responded to me, I’ve seen changes in him and perhaps I’ve gotten through to him. He has inspired and challenged me too, and my life has changed because of it.
But this whole “affair thing” is beyond political and philosophical issues. This is deeply personal and private. I am not his friend, so I can’t speak to him on this level. But it still hurts and I am concerned for him. I thought better of Viggo and this story does not seem to fit with what I know of him. How I wish I could look him in the eyes and ask “What is going on with you? I care and I’m concerned!” I don’t know if it would matter to Viggo. Perhaps I care beyond what is healthy, and that is where I’ve come to the conclusion that I had to let it go and leave it to God. God knows and loves Viggo (more than I ever could) even though Viggo doesn’t acknowledge it.
What I wrote earlier about Jesus telling the mob to drop their rocks – I just want to state – you don’t have to believe in Christianity – it’s wisdom for anyone regardless of religion. I’ve found more peace in my own life by dropping my rocks and focusing on where I need to change and grow.
I know the press wants to exploit this kind of stuff to sell their magazines and sites. They don’t care about who they write about, or if it hurts them and their fans. All they care about is money. But that doesn’t mean we have to give in to it. If we do, it just makes it worse. They are just a bunch of bullies. Why join in with them? As real people, we should be better than that. I challenge people here to think like compassionate, caring people rather than a money-hungry publicist. It may not be as “entertaining” as gossip, but I think you’ll feel better about life and people. Life is difficult enough as it is, why add to it with more negativity and tearing others apart.
Stryder – perhaps we know each other through the theatre then? That is how I know Grace. But I will say nothing of Viggo’s private life full stop. As a friend I wouldn’t do that.
@ ZsuZsa
Your opinions on this post are the only ones that seem to make sense. The only romantic pictures I see of V and A plastered all over the web are ones that are taken at movie premieres and promotions. There is a V and A YouTube video of romantic photos. Everyone is taken at a professional event, mostly from Appaloosa. They look at each other romantically, but they are actors and could quite possibly be doing this for the publicity. For his career, V needs to be seen with a women from time to time or the old gay rumors will start and A could use the publicity of being with a big star. That could be the reason David Trueba put up with it for years. We have no idea why their marriage really broke up.
As for the photos in Spain that everyone is so excited about it shows them driving in a car and him standing in front of her house near yellow garbage can. I do not see how that proves he spent the night. I know it was early, but he could have arrived from his apartment at that time. I would think that there would be restaurant photos or something personal in all this time that they are supposed to be together.
No one knows for sure who was in Iceland or Canada. I believe the only proof we have that it was A in Iceland is a post on Twitter of someone who described a women with short hair. Is Twitter so reliable? The internet is full of nuts. I could go on Twitter right now and say I was with George Clooney last night. How do you know if it is true or not. The only picture I believe is true and slightly suspicious is the one in Croatia. It does look like her hiding behind that other women. It is the only one that proves that they might have a relationship and he went there to see her, then again we don’t know. He could have stopped there on his way to Vienna for support. Maybe I am naïve but it seems like there is not enough proof. I think the heart pin is nonsense.
I don’t believe he left the play for A, I think he already knew about The Talking Cure in December. I am sure he and DC discussed the possibility of him taking over. This might have pushed him to opt out of the play. He likes to have a lot of time to prepare for a movie.
@Stryder and Alex
I also do not think we should be discussing VM’s mom on this site. It is not respectful. It has nothing to do with her whatsoever. Even if the posts say good things about her and her relationship with VM her health and their relationship is private. Just my opinions.
@Stryder and Alex
Just a clarification on my previous post, I know you guys meant no harm and said all really nice things about VM and his mother, but this is still a speculation site about celebrity girlfriends. Saying positive stuff about VM is fine. VM and AG chose a public life and knew full well what comes with it. Mrs. Mortensen has chosen a private life. Just my thoughts.
Wow,
I see the Viggonuts are out here full force. His mother is doing well? He is a nice family guy? “I live where he lives”??
You people crack me up. No one is buying your double posting crap. The man barely steps foot in America! He is here, there and everywhere. And now you say his mother is feeling better and that is why he is traveling? Please, we are not stupid here. Don’t pretend you are his neighbors and friends and know something here. Actions speak louder than words and his actions clearly speak for himself. There was no sick mother. From the day he made that comment, he has barely been in Ameria, let alone Idaho.
Oops! Typo. I of course meant “America”.
One more thing, I agree with Viggo in his own words that it is pretty creepy that his fans think they know him so well and follow him around. To say you know him and pray for him is pretty creepy indeed. Gossip is one thing. But talking about him like you know him personally is pretty frightening. He is just an actor. That’s all, folks. He is not your friend and will never be your “man”. If there are pictures of him with women, then there are pictures of him with women. If he says one thing, but his actions do another, then you know a lie is being said. But to think you know him because you watch him on television or in the movies or bought one of his poems is not knowing a person.
Viggo spends maybe all of a month a year in Idaho…..his mother, who has been ill but is fine (general knowledge) has a place in both Idaho and NY State, but has been in Clayton while ill and NOT Idaho. Either way, I agree Viggo has not at all been “by her side” but more of by Adriadna’s at times….someone recently in a Viggo forum put up links to the Dennis Hopper Star tribute and pictures of a woman that looks very much 99% like Ariadna in a long brown straight haired wig and big brown glasses…it makes you wonder…..I wouldn’t and don’t trust him, I believe he is full of BS. His attractive but it all ends that….I think in life he is destructive to relationships – his own and others.
Unless I am wrong, I have not heard of Viggo being in Spain since December, when those pictures were taken. He has been spotted in the NY area many times this year.
To Truthsayer,
I think you need to change your name because it’s obvious you know nothing about the TRUTH! You’re just spreading more lies and negativity. Why do you have to be so mean and insulting? If coming here and reading these posts upsets you so much; if you think we are all so stupid, then don’t come here! I think the truth about Truthsayer is that you are probably from the people who own this website and your job is to stir the pot to cause more controversy and drama. What’s the matter – were we getting too nice and civilized for you?
Sally James – your post really had me giggling. I have to ask about the pictures of this woman at the Dennis Hopper tribute who “looks very much 99% like Ariadna in a long brown straight haired wig and big brown glasses…” How can you tell she looks 99% like Ariadna if she had on big brown glasses and long straight hair? How do you know it was a wig? Did someone go up to her and pull them off? It was just a picture! Something to think about – There are lots of Spanish women in Los Angeles who probably look like Ariadna but they have real long hair and wear sunglasses because the weather is bright. Besides – I’m pretty sure Ariadna is busy in Zegreb working on a movie right now. She doesn’t have time to globe-trot with Viggo.
This is the first time I’ve come to a site like this and I have to admit the silly drama can be frustrating but also somewhat entertaining. It’s amusing to see the lengths people will reach to grab some controversy!
So here is something else to add to the pot – Yesterday an interview with Viggo from the Argentine magazine Gente was posted where they questioned Viggo about his relationships with his colleagues Christina and Ariadna and his answer was “Exactly, col-lea-gues. All the same, I think that privacy consists in not to rectify the fake rumors about your self.”
“Fake rumors” is what Viggo calls them. Is he being honest or unscrupulous? Chew away people.
This is true. In the article he calls the rumors of a romance with both Christina and Ariadna false. ZsuZsa, if you are out there, what do you think? Is he telling the truth or protecting someone? We will never know for sure, but what is your opinion.
i don’t understand why there is an issue with viggo’s remark. if he had said that he was having a relationship with ariadna gil no-one would have even considered the possibility that he wasn’t telling the truth but because he has denied it people belive he must be lying to protect someone. he said the information about the afairs with both women was false information but people don’t accept his word yet if he had said it was true they would have accepted it. go figure that one out.
it is clear that the people who really wanted for him to be with ariadna don’t want to believe that it isn’t true and need to find a reason to keep the rumor alive whatever the consequences to the people involved.
there are many people who wanted viggo or ariadna to come out and either confirm or deny and now that one of them has but not with the news that so many of those people wanted to hear they won’t accept it. what more can either of them do when people will only belive what they want to believe.
i said further up in this comment thread that it was my opinion that i was one of the few who wouldn’t be surprised if the rumors weren’t true and i stand by that and viggo himself has now validated it with his denial.
maybe it is because i have no vested interest neither did i care because it doesn’t effect me personally if he is with ariadna or not that i can take his words at face value whereas the people who have so strongly opined that they belived in that relationship and have pushed it all the way feel let down now.
@ZsuZsa
Thanks for your thoughts. I wanted your opinion because if you look at my posts, you will see that I agreed with you that it was merely speculation at this point. Neither of us has a vested interest. This is just a site for a chat about celebrity girlfriends. You are right there are those that will believe he is lying to protect AG and the privacy of the relationship. But I believe him. I do not think he is the type of person to make false statements like that. I have no idea what is going on in Spain with the sites you mentioned.
@ZsuZsa &Diane
Colleagues in english usually refers to a work associate. Unless it means something different in spanish, viggo is not being truthful. He is godfather to one of cristina’s kids and as far as ariadne goes, you do not go on vacation to iceland or fly all the way to see someone in croatia if they are a colleague. Unless the interview took place awhile ago and things have changed now. I don’t care if he is with ariadne or not because if it is not her then it is someone else, so who cares? But his words in that article do not match his actions. Sorry Ladies!
here come the stirrers to stir up trouble again. he denied it and that is that. you just don’t want to believe it.
I truly hope he’s not with her, but I know people in the “biz”, and people do say things for “damage control” that aren’t completely true. It happens all the time out here. I don’t know what to believe. I’ll probably still see his movies because I’ve always admired his work, but my warm fuzzies toward regarding him as a leading example of a human being are over.
@ZsuZsa
A Stirrer! Well I’ve been called worse than that!! LOL
There will always be speculation regarding celebrity love affairs. That’s why they have sites like this. The stars know this and many have to worry when no one cares anymore. I am not causing trouble. I think they make a nice couple. We don’t know why she broke up with her husband. I just think they are together and you don’t based on his comment in that one interview. Mine are based on his actions. Like MJ said, it is very common in show business to deny affairs, but you cannot deny flying around to be with someone and taking vacations together. I wish them the best. We just have a friendly difference of opinion. If others have said hurtful things, it is not me.
This “couple” is elusive indeed.
@ Ann
you really need to read my comment again. i said a lot further up in this comment thread that i didn’t believe they were a couple way before he denied it so it is not based on one comment from viggo in an interview.
@ Diana – but hasn’t AG not been in Spain since December either, that appears to be what everyone is saying on the internet.
I don’t like the idea of VM & AG together if he is finding her jobs, I know of no woman who has taken jobs through her boyfriend/husband, unless they started a business together after marriage….I think for a woman to take from a man in terms of jobs that enhances her career/wealth clearly shows what the woman is after. If a woman is truely independant, strong etc she would say “no, I don’t need your jobs/help, I can find my own like I always have”…only AG has never found her own jobs, looking on the internet they came mostly from the Trueba brothers….doesn’t look good for her. Her fame now is 90% due to the association with VM….also not good.
I personally would like to think of him dating someone who has their own job through their own hard work, someone who is earning their own money and has their own house…and who doesn’t want fame or fortune…..so I’d like to think we would never see her and she wouldn’t want to be seen……not hiding her, just not exposing her……Viggo earns his money, she earns her money and that neither their money/jobs cross paths…totally separate in life……bu together in heart.
As for the Gente interview..I don’t know if Viggo would lie, but I doubt it would be the first time if he did…..but no doubt if/when more photos appear of them together or she does start to show up in his films or in films with a connection to him – things will add fuel to the fire etc…..
Just my two cents.
Fiona
@Fofo – Your two cents makes sense to me. It does appear to be that Ariadna Gil has not been in Spain since December. I can understand her being gone for filming the Danish movie in Croatia. But other than that…why? One would think she would be spotted somewhere in Spain and photographed if she was there. What about her children?
I read in an interview article entitled ” Above all I’m a Cuervo…And a greater pride does not exist… – ” Most of the time Viggo lives in Spain. ” Why would he live in Spain, no family at all there. He is godfather to Christina Rosenvinge’s oldest son.[Rosenvinge was in a movie EONS ago with him. I don't consider her a colleague, a good friend of many years.] I do believe his mother is elderly and not in the best of health. But she is not at deaths’s door as was implied in many interviews/articles about why he did not return to Spain and unable to perform in the play Purgatorio. I think he used her as a cover. One month after making these statements about his mothers health situation – he goes on vacation in Iceland. Mrs. Wright must definitely be okay now as he will be gone at least 10 weeks filming ‘ A Dangerous Mind. ‘
Sorry. I’m just not convinced by his one statement. After the Gente interview was published, I noticed a poem was posted at Perceval Press about lying by Jonathan Swift. Thought that kind of funny.
What I can’t figure out is if they really are together; why do they continue to cover up the situation and lie about it?
@Veronica
This is just an opinion, but they could be covering up because of her children. We don’t know how hard they are taking this and we don’t know what kind of custody situation is going on with her ex husband. I have heard in Spain they are not very polite about this and they might want to protect the children until it quiets down and then slowly be seen together. I have no facts, just my opinion. I have seen in print, VM lie before so it is no surprise if he did it again.
There are many tells that indicate a person is lying. When a person is talking and they touch their face, it indicates at that moment that they’re not being entirely truthful. The higher up on the face, the bigger the lie. It just struck me today how many times in the past I’ve seen Viggo grab his ear various times while he’s talking during an interview about various things. It could be a nervous habit, or it could be he adjusts his statements to make himself look good. Just a thought.
@ Lizzie
I wasn’t aware Davie Trueba and Ariadna Gil were allready divorced.
” I have heard in Spain they are not very polite about this.”
What exactly do you mean by that? The people in Spain are not polite/accepting about adulterous relationships period. Or is it because these two and her husband are high-profile people? I’m not sure I understand what you mean by that. I thought the country of Spain was a quite open-minded country, anything goes kind of place.
Sorry for the typo. I meant David, not Davie.
@Veronica
I’m sorry polite was not a good choice of words. I am not in Spain but what we have read on posts here and I have read elsewhere is that some of the Spanish websites are not happy with VM and AG right now. Partly due to the respect they have for her husband (or ex) David, the canceling of the play, the supposed affair etc. Remember my post was in response to why they could be hiding the relationship. The kids live in Spain and would have to deal with the gossip, so they might want to protect them. The same situation could happen in the US or any country. I think Spain along with a lot of counties might be open minded, but I think marriage and children are still sacred. I said ex husband because I heard they had started divorce proceedings quite a while ago. I could be wrong though, have you heard different?
Lizzie, you are obviously the same liz from elsewhere who has been going on about and totally behind a romance between them for years now and you are unwilling to accept that you have probably been barking up the wrong tree.
it serves no useful purpose to try to keep the rumors going other than to give you something to believe in.
sorry but you were wrong and they are just friends and colleagues.
@ZsuZsa
First of all I am not the Liz that has been behind a romance for years. I haven’t had a computer that long. This board is only for speculation. I don’t really know if they are together. It is just an opinion. You cannot possibly know for sure that they are not together unless you are a personal friend. Do you have knowledge other than that interview? This site is for everyone for voice an opinion and chat. If it upsets you to hear one that you don’t agree with you should not come on the site. I would never get involved in saying nasty hurtful things as I have seen elsewhere. This is just speculation.
One after thought, you can disagree with a person regarding their opinions, but you should not put someone down personally, because they disagree with you. I see that a lot and it is not right. It is said people want to see them together, that may be true, but there are also those you can’t stand the thought of VM with a women and get very upset at the possibility.
i couldn’t care less one way or another if VM is with a woman or not if that is what you are insinuating. this rumor has been going on and on since 2005 and was started by the VM fan sites and has been carried on by them before ever anyone else even considered it. a lot of journos do their research by visiting fan sites and places like this and it is because of the gossip on those fan sites that the press and paparazzi picked it up and ran with it. now he has openly denied it those fan sites and others who just can’t let go of their dream relationship for him they are making the claim that he is lying to cever it up or protect her. i never believed the rumors from the start and i don’t believe them now.
But perhaps Zsuzsa when it comes out that Viggo has been lying and the fans you have a go at were right and you were wrong about Viggo – perhaps the mud will be on your face?! You are so sure that they are not together – but if it turns out they are together…..your posts will look very silly.
I read people saying about if they are together and why they think this. But other fans say only no they are not together with no reasoning. I think perhaps the fans who believe viggo and believe all he says will turn out to be laughed at…..and the smiles be on the face of those that thought viggo was not being honest.
I understand not why he would live in Spain -from choice – when he has nothing there….why not live in Denmark – he has a passport of this country – but Spain – no….so why? Unless this info is wrong. Why not live in Argentina? It is I think odd….he has family in the USA and football in Argentina but nothing in Spain…….
for first thing i was not having a go i was saying what is my opinion but if you want to get nasty about the whole thing then maybe you won’t mind me laughng at you when you are shown to be wrong. i don’t see where anyone laughing about who is right and who is wrong comes into it. that is just people being nasty and i actually wouldn’t laugh at someone who was wrong really so you just go on being that way if that makes you happy.
he isn’t and he wasn’t living in spain all the time. he was there for about ten weeks at the start of 2009 when he was seen with christina and her children and she was seen leaving his madrid apartment. then he went back for about two weeks in april. he was not there again until october for about one week and then he did not go back until december when he was there for two weeks. the rest of the year he was travelling and living in america.
@Zsuzsa – You seem awful sure of Viggo’s living arrangements and itinerary for the year 2009. I remember you mentioning in an earlier post about him not being as scrupulous as he leads people to believe.
Honestly, if there is actually only one person at this web site who might really know him, sounds like it would have to be you. I just never in my wildest dreams thought someone who has had contact with this man would post at a public forum board.
I agree with Veronica – Zsuzsa, you seem very sure you are right and you seem very sure of dates and how long he stay places. I saw no pictures of him at Christine’s appartment, only in the park and at the back door of the theatre…….then I see pictures of him and AG at her appartment………you either know him, which I feel you don’t – but if you did you should not be on here. If you don’t know him I think you feel you do. You seem to think (or do know?) exact dates of when and where he is……
On other subject, no one has been nasty about Viggo or AG that I read, but think they are being honest in their opinion and questioning things that Viggo has said when his actions are different to his words……I think many people here are thinking aloud and giving reasons for why they think things, I do not think they are being horrible. To question is not to be horrible. This is just my thoughts.
I think also it is not just about the happiness of two people (VM & AG), I think it is about the children first….if they are together, then I feel they have done much wrong against the children……this goes against Viggo’s words. I understand both sides of what people say, but his actions go against his words and so I am not sure about whether it is all true or not, his actions and behavior say yes they are together, his words say no. But we know Viggo’s words have lied before…..so I don’t know. I wish them not to be together…..because of the way it will have been done and the children……like other people I do not like Viggo finding AG jobs..I think that is wrong….she gets jobs and money from/through him…this is wrong, you do not date a man for this.
@ Veronica
how you jump at conclusions again the same way you and some others jump at conclusions about VM and AG because of some pictures and two other sightings. do you think it was AG with him in Canada because if you do then it is only because someone else wrote here that it was her. the shop where he was seen has a blog and it was on there that he was shopping with a ‘female companion’ but they never describe her or say it was her. they just said a female. it was someone else who put two and two together and conclude that is was AG.
@Fofo
you also jump at conclusions without any proof. he cannot be in two places at once and the times i said he wasn’t in spain was because he was actually seen in other places and was also promoting films in other places and was working on his book and recording a soundtrack for a documentary and loads of other things.
so you saw no pictures of Christina leaving his apartment. that does not mean it did not happen. you believe he does not use the bathroom maybe because you have not seen pictures to prove he does? Christina was seen leaving his apartment and he was also seen with another friend who was not Christina or Ariadna meeting in Madrid when he was staying there at the beginning of 2009.
you said that i accuse you of being nasty about AG & VM when that was not what i was talking about. i was talking about the way you said you laugh at people if they are wrong and that people have mud on their face if they are wrong. that is what i meant about you being nasty. is that what you do with your family or your friends if they are wrong and you are right. you laugh at them? do people laugh at you if you are wrong about a thing? i was bought up to be better than that and if i am proven wrong i admit it and if my friend or family member or colleague is wrong i do not laugh or make jest at them.
how do you know he gets jobs for her? with the play, VM suggested it to Ariel Dorffman and they agreed to do it in spain. AG helped out because it is her who knew the director from working with him before and she suggested him. the danish film is another thing. who said VM got her that job? i have read in other places that VM knows the director but people only started saying that after someone suggested that ‘maybe he knows the director’ and so then everyone jumps at a conclusion again and says ‘he knows the director’.
you said that to question is not horrible but if you question his words then you are calling him a liar and that is horrible. he said once when he denied another affair with the English tv presenter that the rumors eventually gets into your life and starts affecting you and so he spoke out. maybe that is why he spoke out now about AG. maybe it is affecting him because it starts to interfere with his life now. maybe he even has a girlfriend who is not AG and it is hurting her reading the rumors like it must have hurt David Trueba all these past years, so he spoke out. maybe because his parents are elderly and they read about it and maybe ask him ‘son, what is all this about’. maybe this is why he spoke out now.
together with other things that point away from this rumor, i accept his words.
@Zsuzsa
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! A bit defensive aren’t you?!? Go check out my first posted reply. Originally, I most definitely
gave them the benefit of the doubt. I never even mentioned
Canada. I have changed my opinion about this due to a lot of factors, not just one thing.
Surely you must realize with the way in which you write your replies – you come across as an authority on the matter and ‘someone in the know.’ Especially with your very specific statement of ” he doesn’t seem to have as many scruples as some might think. ” ” And unfortunately I am not at liberty to say why.”
Your exact words Z. So either you know this man. Or you do know someone who does.
This is just an opinion of mine. In no way is this meant to be confrontational. After reading all of your posts again; it strikes me you are doing a bit of damage control. Trying waaaay too hard to convince others they are uninformed and wrong in their opinions.
@Veronica
What are the factors that made you change your opinion about Canada? You also mentioned something about “scruples.”
@Ann
For clarification sake I never did post an opinion about Canada one way or the other here.
Factors that changed my mind. Many interviews he stated he didn’t know how long he would have to be in New York to take care of his sick mother. Especially an article that was in a Danish newspaper. Yet almost one month to the day after he posted his statement about leaving the play Purgatorio he’s spotted on vacation in Iceland! If your mother was that seriously ill you wouldn’t leave and go on a trip that far away. I understand doing research for the Freud role, but how convenient it so happens to be in Zagreb, Croatia where Ariadna Gil is filming. I think he got up to be photographed with the restaurant owner so he would not be seen in a picture with Ariadna who is sitting at the table with her face blocked by the other woman.
Scruples? Well. Something that has bugged me for a bit. This man is known for guarding his privacy for years. Likes the anonymity of it all. According to journalists who have interviewed him, his co-workers and fans who have met him, he is very, very shy. This does not reconcile with the nude photo of himself on one page and Lola Schnabel ( his 22 yr.old girlfriend at the time ) on the opposite page in one of his own books. He is on the floor writing/drawing. It’s not the nudity; why would he want this to be published that he likes to be in the buff sometimes when he creates when he allready was having a problem with undue female attention. Just seems to me that kind of intimate moment best kept to yourself.
Another picture of him. I’m not sure if it’s in a book. I saw it on the ‘net. He took a photo of himself from about the shoulder area on up, tousled hair and when asked said he took it of himself after he had just gotten out of bed. Fine if he wanted the photo for posterity sake, why tell the world about it especially when you have made it clear that ‘what I do in private stays with me.’ At times it seems to me he fuels the flames of igniting his many female fans that he claims to try and deter from such attention.
Lionheart mentioned the movie Gospel According to Harry. The director of the film did a phone interview the text version I read, yes he was entertaining an overnight tent female friend. The filming of this movie was the same year he and Exene separated. I have not been able to find out if he was separated before or after the tent incident.
My reasons may not amount to much to others. But for me there are just a lot of them that began to add up to more than I originally suspected.
I still think he is a good actor. A very good thing I think he did was Perceval Press, an oulet for artists who most would never get published otherwise. { especially that poetry book from Argentina } But I no longer accept that he
is a man of total integrity. Or honesty.
Forget me and my ramblings. It is “Z” with her not as many scruples as some might think statement that would be most interesting to know the reasoning behind that. LOL
I’ve heard Viggo read some poetry that was very personal. I think he just wants to be in total control of his image and what gets exposed to the public. Sorry dude, but that’s not possible in this biz. I think George Clooney put it best when he said that if you choose to become an actor, and then become successful enough to be famous, you chose it, deal with the attention, quit your whining or find another profession. I’m paraphrasing, but that was the sentiment.
I’m very curious about Z. I wonder if he/she is someone I’ve met before.
Thanks for your thoughts Veronica. I don’t think that we will be hearing from “Z” anytime soon regarding her scruple opinion. By the way, what book is V nude in?? LOL
i am probably going to get plastered for this but here goes anyway. i have been reading these posts and my view is quite different from those here. vm is not private at all regarding other aspects of his life. aside from having no problem with millions seeing him nude, he talks about his childhood, parents, their divorce, his kid, politics, other actors, directors, and his thoughts on almost every subject except one, his love life. i think a big reason for this is that he is most likely bi sexual or mostly gay with a few women lovers now and then. most straight couples in hollywood even the most private that do not discuss their personal lives are at least seen at restaurants and support each at premieres, and other events. the public knows they are together and in each other’s lives although they don’t discuss it. vm is always alone, his partners are always hidden. this is so weird for a straight person to live this way or for that matter a gay person that is honest about it. gay actors such, as ellen degeneres and others are proud to be with their partners and do not hide it. only actors in the closet hide and say they are very private. i know he was married, but it did not last long. i even have my doubts now that he was with lola. i think she might have been just a close friend. as far as ari gil goes, they might be together, as i said i think he likes women too, but the pictures outside her house were meaningless and he went to iceland with a group. we do not even know if she was there. zagreb is only 100 or so miles from vienna where he was researching. if I had a good friend filming there, i would stop and see how they were doing. i think that it benefits both of them for people to believe they are together, so they don’t deny it (publicity for her). as far as that spanish play goes, I think he was scared stiff to do it and very unprepared, that is why he dropped out. he is my favorite actor and i don’t care what he is, but I think it is sad they you have to hide who you really are if you want to make movies in hollywood. i would not want to live that way. of course, this is just my opinion, I have no proof whatsoever. all right, let me have it. i have no proof, he was married, ag left her husband! I know.
@Ann
I think it’s the Linger or Recent Forgeries book. I’ve never bought any of his books. If you do find it online and have any comments about it feel free to let me know.
@argent
I am sorry but I don’t believe that for one minute. You can definitely be straight and private. I think after Lola he got turned off by the public knowing about his private life. He said it can ruin a relationship and that is why he keeps it private. I think we will know for sure about AG as time goes on and they are more comfortable being seen together. Remember she is recently separated, also I don’t know Exene Cervenka personally, but she seems like a very stong confident woman and I don’t think she would be someone’s “beard wife.” You are wrong.
@Veronica
Thanks for the info!
Argent,
It is not that you have to hide who you are in Hollwood. It is that if you want fame and fortune you have to hide who you are. Do you know why?
Because women go to movies and they like romance. If they know a man is guy, they won’t swoon for him no matter even if he takes a male lead role. They know, without a ahadow of a doubt, they have no chance with that man. So people laugh and say “why? did you think you have a chance with him anyway? Especially gay men say this in response to women. But the answer is “why do you think Disney Princess is so powerful to young girls? They know they are not princesses, but don’t care. You know why? Because there is no logic in a feminine romantic Heart. And that is why I say to gay men “wow, you really are like “real” men (nonoffenseively) because even straight men try to apply logic to a women’s Heart.
So gay men know this and they want to be rich and famous anyway. So they take this choice away from women by pretending to be straight and then blame “society” for not allowing them to be themselves. It is very manipulative and disrespective to women, but hey! Our society has always been disrespectful to women because we have allowed it through out own insecurities. It is always personal choice.
VM may be gay or not. But a lie is a lie and I don’t like that these actors make it seem as if “society” forces them to lie. And as as far as him being so shy and private, how come I can count on both hands how many times he shows his body naked?? And how dare he blame the media for his “relationship” with a woman half his age —- Lola — for the breakup. Umm. maybe you were twice her age and didn’t have anything in common other than you just wanted a young woman’s body instead of a woman your own age?
lilypad,
if you read my post again, i do say that vm is not private at all except with his love life and I mention the nudity in films. i also said I believe he and lola were just good friends. i never heard of him blaming the press for any of his relationships breaking up. i think he said that the intrusion can cause problems in a relationship. I know why these guys hide who they are. you are perfectly right.
Knowing what I know, I think the reason V doesn’t like to talk about his love life is because he generally messes around with women he shouldn’t be messing around with. This is not the first time he went for someone in a relationship.
@MJ
You must have heard the gay/bi rumors before if you have friends in show business. They have been circulating for years since before LOTR. There are sites that still discuss to this day, the goings on with the guys on that film.
You know MJ you are not the first person to mention that about him going after someone already in a relationship. This has been referred to by several different people at various web sites. I am of the opinion he has been having an affair with Ariadna Gil. Not much of a stretch to think he’s done this before with other married/attached women. Not only would it explain him not speaking about his love life, but also why he is NEVER seen with a woman in a dating situation. A man can’t be seen with another man’s wife or girlfriend out in public. Maybe this is what Zsuzsa meant by not as many scruples as one would think.
Very interesting Veronica and MJ but, Ariadna Gil is no longer or will no longer be attached. If you two are right what then?
could vm have been with married women before? probably, and he might be with this ag. but, he can’t have been with only attached women for all these years. i still think my theory is more realistic.
I don’t know Ann. It will be interesting to see if the two of them do end up together permanently. I still hold out that it will not last. Women’s intuition, gut feeling whatever.
@argent
I’m not going to let you have it. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions/theories.
‘his partners are always hidden.’ Sure gave me something to think about. If dating women who are in another relationship or you are bi/gay and not out of the closet you won’t be seen with others at all will you?
@Ann
I have heard the gay/bi rumors. I could see why people think that, but I’ve only heard of him being with women. If he’s closeted, he’s as secretive as a super hero.
@MJ
Those rumors have been around for a long time with no proof whatsoever. VM is such a private person, that all kinds of stories pop up because the press does not know what to write. Half of this stuff is made up to sell articles. I do think, although some on this board disagree strongly, that there is truth to the AG story (IMHO). That article in Gente does not seem to me like a serious interview. It seemed more like he was kidding around with the interviewer, especially after the second remark about CR’s kids wearing the San Lorenzo colors and he starts to laugh. I would not base anything on that article; it was not a strong denial to me.
who cares? let the dude do what he wants! :/
Strange how we get all caught up in the lives of the “rich and famous”! When it comes to VM, afraid I’m as bad as the rest – there is just something about him! He’s got great soul – it’s not just his looks, there is his heart! Must admit that I’m a bit jealous (not that I would ever have the chance of meeting him) and pray that he and AG are not together – I’m thinking that perhaps he is a bit gun shy of marriage and that he may be just very very good friends with AG as long as she was married and perhaps now that she has left her husband – he will drop her.
Cindy, Viggo Mortensen may play serious characters, but when it comes to his personal life, I don’t think there’s really anything going on, and it’s not from jealousy anything, but it looks staged.
Edit: I meant that right now, he and Ariadna Gil, there’s just something about it that doesn’t say they’re going out, nor serious.
Jane- I think you are right – there is something not quite right about the pictures of them together –
Viggo is known to be a prankster – you think he may be enjoying the “game”?
Anything is possible. They just look more like friends, maybe even friends with benefits, but not a couple.
I noticed in most of the pictures that AG is wearing her wedding ring – and in some not – did she and her hubby David Trueba separate?
Ariadna Gil is separated from her husband. Not sure of the date she left him. Summer or fall of ’09? The pictures outside a home/apartment in Dec.’09 with her and Viggo is the residence where she lives in Madrid,Spain.
I guess she is finished with the filming of the Danish movie in Croatia. I saw a picture of her with two women on the internet. She was in Barcelona,Spain on May 15th to do a reading from a book called Cesare{spelling?}. This book is to be presented on May 20th in Madrid,Spain. I don’t know if AG will be at that reading or not.
Guess only time will tell.
Do you think that she is using Viggo in order to get parts?
Well it certainly does look that way, but that’s just my opinion.
I’ve not seen the pictures of AG and VM in Madrid – have there been any of late? I’ve seen the youtube video as well.
Ariadna has been in Barcelona for a reading on the 15th..I think perhaps Viggo was heading out of USA to Spain when he was seen at the Beethoven music concert – yes? Perhaps they are in Spain now, do anyone hear something?
According the the posts at Perceval Press, it looks like Viggo is in Cologne, Germany under the tutelage of David Cronenberg. He said in an interview that he starts shooting his new film at the end of May. That would be now.
I understand that Viggo was at Columbia University to watch his son Henry graduate – filming on A Dangerous Method was to start the week of May 17th.
@MJ
MJ without naming names (of course) could you be more specific about the “unavailable women” rumors? Can you give us more info?
Anyone remember Eddie Fischer, Debbie Reynolds and Elizabeth Taylor? Well, Eddie and Debbie were married (they are parents of Carrie Fischer of Star Wars fame). Debbie Reynolds was America’s sweetheart of the movies while Eddie was a singer. when Elizabeth Taylor met up with Eddie, she managed to steal him away from Debbie. There was quite the scandal back then and Eddie’s career (I believe) took quite the nose dive. Can’t remember if Elizabeth and Eddie wed (probably did). Debbie’s career stayed quite strong after the scandal and I think Elizabeth might have suffered as well a bit.
Then we have Jessie James and Sandra Bullock – she the reigning America’s sweetheart and Jessie the big knave!
If…. if AG and VM are proved to be together and he is responsible for the breaking up of her marriage – do you think the “fans” have the clout or the inclination to “punish” the two of them as did the fans of Eddie and Elizabeth and are possibly doing to Jessie? Your thoughts, please.
@argent
All I feel comfortable saying is that there have been other women who were in relationships that suddenly broke up when Viggo entered the picture, and then seemed to be with him for awhile. Unless I name names, which I certainly will not do, that’s pretty much all I can say.
@cindy
you sound like his pr person gathering information or taking a survey. do you know something we don’t?
you cannot compare vm and ag to elizabeth and eddie. They are not nearly as famous. No one even knows who ag is in the usa and half the people you speak to don’t know vm. as I said in my previous posts I am not sure they are together, but I believe his fans love him no matter what. I know I do, of course others might disagree.
@argent
No, I’m not his PR person – haven’t even met him! Would love to tho.
I realize that there is no comparison to Eddie and Elizabeth – I mean Elizabeth Taylor?! She is known by everyone – and I think there was a different moral mindset in those days than today…
It’s a bit unbelievable that no one would know VM???!!! I think he is fabulous as an actor –
While I would be disappointed (and even a bit jealous) if they were together, I would still support him as an actor.
I too was wondering if you were his PR person, especially with all of the questions that you have. But if you’re not, then I guess you’re not.
@Fofo and Veronica
According to someone on Twitter who saw him, VM is now in Barcelona. What a coincidence! I must give him and AG credit; they do a wonderful job of hiding. Either that or the paparazzi do not take their picture. It is amazing how long they have kept this quiet, they must never go out!
@ Ann – ???? he’s in Barcelona?? Thought he was in Germany filming – didn’t they start filming in Germany for his new movie???
And yes, if they were going out, you would think that the paparazzi would have taken their picture –
@Jane – I’m just a bit fascinated with him at the moment – wouldn’t mind being his personal assistant!
just saw posted on Twitter that Viggo died in a car accident in London last night – if he was in Barcelona or filming in Germany, how could he be in London???? No reports of his death anywhere on the web.
If only you were funny Cindy – I might have laughed.
AG and VM aare hardly Liz Taylor etc – so no scandal!
No pictures because no one knows who the hell AG – she isn’t a big name.
As for other women’s relationships have come to an end once Viggo arrived on the scene – you referring to Scarlett J? Nothing to do with Viggo, G Palrow? Nothing to do with Viggo – fact – Viggo doesn’t go for blondes…..you can tell that straight off.
Andie McDowell – yes….I agree….him/her I believe…the others big no. Him and AG yes….
I think when they do get caught and people have seen how much Viggo has lied – the lines will go down at his exhibitions and money might not flow so well into PP.
@Cindy
Don’t worry VM is not dead. He is most likely in Barcelona having a blast as we speak. That stupid rumor was started on Twitter. Why people do these things is beyond me.
VM stated in an interview that he is not needed on the set full time because the part of Freud is a supporting role. This leaves him time to travel. He was seen on a flight to Barcelona on 5/25. AG has also been in Barcelona recently so this story might very well be true. I believe it is her hometown.
one person say they see viggo on a flight to barcelona but the next day someone else at twitter say they saw him in los angeles and he posted on his perceval press that same day a article about los angeles street gangs.
one of the people was mistaken and he posted nothing from spain only things from new york and los angeles.
@ZsuZsa
You are correct one person is right and the other is wrong. But, the person on the flight said they spoke to him, who knows? As you know he can post articles on PP from anywhere in the world, he does not have to be there. I have seen him post from El Pais and the Independent on the same day. But, wherever he may be, I am sure that he is going to attend the Memorial Service for Dennis Hopper wherever and whenever it is held. I just heard that Dennis passed away today.
the person who twittered didn’t speak to him. they made a joke about lord of the rings about him having the ring and showing it to them.
he doesn’t always post from where he is i know that, but it is often a very good indicator especially when there is also a person who sees him in that place. there are papers he always post from like independant and el pais for sure but there are others that he only posts from when he is visiting that country.
it’s possible also that he is in la and is one of the friends who was with his great friend dennis hopper when he died. they say he was surrounded by family and friends.
@ Zszsa – I think maybe LA, with Henry finished Uni he must either return to LA to live, have a place that Viggo has bought in him in NY or go to hs mothe’s. I think he will go back to LA and Viggo will be there with him….
I too think some fans will make stuff up to add to rumours (which don’t need any fueling!), I only believe if there are pictures and perhaps different sources at the sametime, not one source for all.
I still hope it is not true about him and AG but only because of the children….I feel for them so much, especially as it would mean Viggo and AG did have an affair while the one was so young….
Sorry Zsuzsa – I spelt your name wrong. My apologies.
@ZsuZsa and Fofo
I too hope that VM was in LA and able to be with Dennis. It is true about Twitter you never know the whole truth, someone said he died in London the other day which was totally outrageous.
As far as Henry is concerned, he might decide to stay in school and go on to a higher degree. In the US it would be a Master’s Degree and that could be anywhere not just NY or LA. If he works in his major of archeology he can really go anywhere, we really don’t know where he will end up living.
Fans tend to think that VM needs to be in Spain to see AG and then all the rumors start if he is there, but the fact is that she can travel with him and meet him anywhere in the world. She is totally unknown in the US so she can go unrecognized anywhere here. For some reason the paparazzi in the US do not bother VM. I have no idea if they are really together or not, but being in a particular country does not mean anything. Since he travels so much whoever is his love must do a lot of traveling to be with him. We never see him because he is a master at hiding.
Henry has spoken of maybe doing a Masters in LA – hence I mentioned it. Of course he could do it anywhere, more so than anyone else because of his dad’s money he could do it aboard – an opportunity your average person doesn’t have! He is VERY lucky…..
….the death thing about Viggo was not supposed to be a death rumour – it was someone making fun of the Viggo sightings because he is seen in more than one place at a time….they were trying to be funny…but it didn’t work and won’t under these circumstances on the internet….it was also just distasteful.
@Fofo
It was very distasteful. It makes you wonder just how many of those twitter sightings were false.
To Fofo
Where did you hear that Henry said he was considering doing his Masters in L.A.? I’ve never seen Henry comment on his plans anywhere, not even on his My Space page.
is so sad for grown up women to be checking on a myspace of a young guy of 22 just because they like his dad. this is very sad lionheart. you must be very anxious to find out about viggo and his private life for you to follow him through his son. and to ann, is also very sad that you and others cannot accept that viggo does not be dating ariadna even though he says so himself. you must want it to be true so much that you have to keep telling yourselves and other people it is true and he is a liar because you think if you say it enough it will be true.
@ZsuZsa
As I said in my post, I don’t know if they are together, but I speculate that they are. I know your opinion is that they are not, so we will not agree on that. I don’t see that interview as a denial since there was a lot of kidding around and we know that both of those ladies are more than “colleagues.” I think if a man and woman are rumored to be together, then she leaves her husband, goes on vacation with the new man and then he flies to see her where she is filming, is a little suspicious. Now we hear that AG was in Barcelona and VM is supposedly seen flying there. There are a lot of coincidences. Although after the “dead” rumor my trust in twitter is much less.
@ann
you must have read different interview to me because the one i read was relaxed but not with a lot of kidding around as you put it. he laughed when it was pointed out about the children of christina wearing the colors of san lorenzo but not after he answered the question about the romance rumors. why shouldn’t he laugh when the interviewer obviously had not realised that the oldest boy is his godson and that christina is a friend for many many years back.
you think if a man and a woman are rumored to be together then it must be true but the rumors always come from the viggo sites and the press only pick up on it from the fans. many fans want it to be true and like with any gossip and rumors if something is said by one person and then repeated often, it grows and people start to belive it is true.
vm and ariadna are friends and that is all. they did not go to vacation alone they went as part of a group of friends and vm was in europe to research not far from where ariadna was starting to film so he went to visit her on the first day of filming same as a female friend of his visited him on first days of filming eastern promises in london a few years ago. as for someone seeing him on a flight to barcelona many flights from jfk are german national airline lufthansa and fly with stopovers in germany. is possible he was on one of those and he never went to barcelona but got off the plane in germany.
actors and artists often socialize and hang out with other actors and artists because they are close knit group of people.
you carry on speculating that they are together if that is what makes you happy and content because is right that everyone express their own views but your view include calling viggo a liar.
Hey Zsuzsa,
I am really insulted by your statement: “is so sad for grown up women to be checking on a myspace of a young guy of 22 just because they like his dad. this is very sad lionheart. you must be very anxious to find out about viggo and his private life for you to follow him through his son.”
For your information, I read Henry’s page and listened to his radio show because he knows a lot about music – especially punk. And I enjoy his poetry. Henry is an interesting person in his own right and I do care about him. I’ve watched him grow up since he was a little boy, so I am interested in what he does with his life. I am also a musician, and I encourage other young musicians. For you to shame me for reading his website, without knowing the reasons is really hypocritical!
I never called Viggo a liar. You are the one who said he was “unscrupulous”. But since you are pressing the point – Viggo never said he was not dating Ariadna. Nope, never said those exact words. NEVER! What he said is
“All the same, I think that privacy consists in not to rectify the fake rumors about your self.” He never specified what the “fake rumors” were, but we do know from Christina that they are only friends. That could be the only fake rumors he was referring to. Ariadna Gil, nor anyone from her camp, has denied she and Viggo are dating. I think Viggo is very clever at alluding the issues, but I never called him a liar.
This is a speculation thread about girlfriends, so of course people here are speculating on this issue. I don’t object to it. What I do object to is dragging Ariadna Gil through the mud and saying she is only dating Viggo for money or connections. The facts are she is definitely Viggo’s friend, (whether they are dating or not) and she is a very talented actress who does not need help from Viggo, therefore I will defend her. I may not agree with all her actions, but I will defend her as a woman and as an artist.
And I will defend my right to go to whatever website I choose without being insulted by a total stranger! You know nothing about me, just like you know nothing about Viggo. All you really have is speculation over what is written in articles and websites. You are no better than the rest of us, so stop acting like you are.
@ Lionheart: Henry has suggested two places for his Masters, I only remember him mentioning UCLA as the one.
@ Zsuzsa: I agree about myspace etc. A lot of Viggo fans feel that a lot of Viggo friends/relatives are “greatly talented and wonderful people” I often wonder if they take this attitude because they think that is what Viggo wants them to say/think. They will not say anything bad about anyone Viggo knows and is publicly known to like……I have many times heard Viggo’s fans say that henry is “just like Viggo” – actually he isn’t…he is 100% his mother.
@ Ann: I wouldn’t trust Twitter full stop. there is no reason to – it’s all just fans
I don’t believe he ever went out with Christina R – he just doesn’t seem to ever go for blonds. But AG – I’m sitting on the fence though I hope it isn’t true…..for so many reasons. The one being that if it is true, Viggo will show himself up to be a liar and I don’t want that more than anything. The article you all refer to was vague and Viggo gave a vague answer…..I’m still waiting for time to tell…
Whoa! Missed alot since I last posted – I’m only able to get on the internet at the library and it has been closed since Friday afternoon.
Been watching the news shows all weekend long to see if there were any reports of Viggo and there were none – glad to “see” that he is not dead! Guess one must Twitter and all websites with a grain of salt!
I didn’t mean to compare Elizabeth Taylor with VM as they are two different types of actors – Elizabeth Taylor more movie star. The thought had occurred to me and I was wondering if the fans had the same type of clout as they had back in the days.
I like to think that Viggo was with his friend Dennis Hopper at the end. Viggo seems to be quite faithful to his friends.
As for AG – well, time will tell. We are all human and we all make mistakes -
here’s Viggo’s letter to Dennis – so he was not with him physically when Dennis Hopper died – http://percevalpress.com/
@ZsuZsa
To be fair regarding the Iceland vacation is the only proof we have twitter sightings? Do you know if they named AG or just said a female? I heard some sites say they described her physically. Do you know if it was more than one person that posted on twitter? The reason I am asking is that I do not know if I believe twitter at this point. I tried to find the posts on twitter, but I could not find anything during that week.
Also do you have any idea why AG’s press people do not deny the rumors? Some of them were pretty bad, I would think if it was not true, why not deny them and put a stop to all of this.
Thanks for the information Fofo. I’m curious where you heard Henry’s comments on getting a Masters degree. What is the subject? More Archeology?
As for your statement wondering about Viggo fans only making flattering comments because they think it’s what Viggo would want – I can’t speak for others, only for myself. In my case – I call it as I see it, whether it’s what Viggo wants to hear or not. I think both Viggo and Henry would appreciate the truth rather than flattery. However, I do think the truth should be served with tact and fairness. (Unless I’m dealing with a bunch of mean, gossiping or insulting people who need to be shocked into stopping the abuse, then I get in their face.)
As for Henry, I do not think he is 100% Viggo. I think he is a very different kind of person who is much more comfortable in front of people, more confident in his abilities, and has a lot of courage and creativity all his own. Sometimes I enjoy Henry’s poetry more than Viggo’s poetry. I don’t know enough about Exene to know if that’s where he gets it. I just know he’s a very smart kid (He read the LOTR Trilogy before he was 11 years old! That’s impressive!!) and I think he’s got a lot going for him. But this is a thread about girlfriends, not family, so I won’t say more about Henry.
Except one more thing regarding people who visit Henry’s website: There were a lot of Viggo fans who kept posting stuff to and about Viggo on Henry’s site. I thought it was wrong to do so because the site is about Henry, not Viggo. Finally Henry wrote a notice asking Viggo fans to stop coming to his site just because of his dad. He took a stand for himself and politely explained why it offended him. I was so proud of him for doing so. Thankfully his request was respected and there have been no more “Viggo postings”. They are letting Henry have his space on My Space. It is quite possible to be a fan of both Viggo and Henry separately.
Concerning the Iceland vacation, no one ever said it was Ariadna. But the woman seen with Viggo at the Blue Lagoon, where they were observed as “a couple” described a woman with short dark hair, dark skin and thin, “very cute”. The person who blogged about seeing them did not even know who Ariadna Gil was, nor any of the controversy about them. She was just excited to see Viggo and thought he looked happy with “his girlfriend”. The description seems to closely fit Ariadna, so people just assumed it was her.
Make of it what you will.
@ann
ariadna was never named by the icelandic press just that he arrived with a girlfriend and his entourage. he arrived with a group of people and they believed one of those to be his girlfriend.
ariadna’s agents did respond when asked by saying no comment but as the marriage break up rumors had only just come out then that is not surprising. ariadna hasn’t been directly asked about it since then and david has just kept quiet.
@lionheart and not directed at anyone else
you said:-
“For your information, I read Henry’s page and listened to his radio show because he knows a lot about music – especially punk. And I enjoy his poetry. Henry is an interesting person in his own right and I do care about him. I’ve watched him grow up since he was a little boy, so I am interested in what he does with his life. I am also a musician, and I encourage other young musicians. For you to shame me for reading his website, without knowing the reasons is really hypocritical!”
you haven’t watched him grow up. you weren’t there. you have seen some pictures and read things in the press that his father has said about him in interviews but you haven’t seen him grow up. that is all in your imagination. it is what you would like to have been and to have happened but it never did. only his family and friends have seen him grow up. henry is a complete stranger to you that you would like to know but don’t and is simply a young man you know of just because you admire his father but you don’t know the actual person. what you are doing is a classic fan obsession of trying to feel closer to someone by knowing as much as possible not just about them but about their closest family and friends.
you said:-
“I never called Viggo a liar. You are the one who said he was “unscrupulous”. But since you are pressing the point – Viggo never said he was not dating Ariadna. Nope, never said those exact words. NEVER! What he said is
“All the same, I think that privacy consists in not to rectify the fake rumors about your self.” He never specified what the “fake rumors” were, but we do know from Christina that they are only friends. That could be the only fake rumors he was referring to. Ariadna Gil, nor anyone from her camp, has denied she and Viggo are dating. I think Viggo is very clever at alluding the issues, but I never called him a liar.”
i never said you called him a liar. i was responding to ann that for her to say his answer was not a denial meant that logically she would have to be saying he lied to not believe his own words. and when i said he is unscrupulous it had nothing to do with his love life and i never said it was.
you missed the first part of what he said in his denial by the way. you should have quoted the question and his exact answer to keep it in context but his complete answer blows your argument out of the water.
Since we are just talking, did you hear that in Spain they say you have had relationships with your colleagues, singer Christina Rosenvinge and Ariadna Gil?
Exactly, col-lea-gues. Anyway I think that cultivating privacy means not correcting false information spread about yourself.
he stressed that they are colleagues, both of them. he used the plural of the word colleague meaning both and the way he obviously slowly and deliberately said the word, stressing each syllable, col-lea-gues, when you read the actual text from the article, it can be taken in no other way than a denial of a relationship with either of those women. he sees ariadna as a colleague and a friend the same way he sees christina. ariadna has not denied anything because she has not been asked directly and her agents just said they had no comment. that is not a surprise as the news of her marriage breaking up had only just been made public at that time.
you said:-
“This is a speculation thread about girlfriends, so of course people here are speculating on this issue. I don’t object to it. What I do object to is dragging Ariadna Gil through the mud and saying she is only dating Viggo for money or connections. The facts are she is definitely Viggo’s friend, (whether they are dating or not) and she is a very talented actress who does not need help from Viggo, therefore I will defend her. I may not agree with all her actions, but I will defend her as a woman and as an artist.”
i have not dragged ariadna through anything. i only ever said that i have never believed they are a couple. there is someone who has been posting everywhere very hateful and spiteful things but that person is well known for what she does. i have never said ariadna needs or want viggo’s help. you mix other peoples posts up and then say it is me when it was not. that is proof that you don’t read things properly, you read into things what you want them to be and then you try to influence people opinions when you haven’t even read the posts here properly never mind what you have read at other places.
you said:-
“And I will defend my right to go to whatever website I choose without being insulted by a total stranger! You know nothing about me, just like you know nothing about Viggo. All you really have is speculation over what is written in articles and websites. You are no better than the rest of us, so stop acting like you are.”
you can defend your right to go wherever you want that is true and i can defend my right to be of the opinion and to say that fans of viggo only go to henry’s myspace page to find out what he is up to and to see if there is anything there about his father.
Just an observation regarding the Iceland sighting, AG is very fair she does not have dark skin. So the speculation continues.
@zsuzsa.
i agree with you that vm and ag are probably not together but for different reasons. if you read my previous post, i believe that here is a strong possibility that vm is gay or bi but mostly gay. i think that is the reason he is so private and is never seen with a woman. it explains a lot of what is going on with ag and why there are no outright denials and why they do not come out in public, because they are not together! it would not matter to me in the least, he will always be my favorite actor, but it does matter to a lot of women fans, so he needs to hide and these rumors with ag may actually help him. i am curious to know what you think.
This is in answer to Zsuzsa.
I’m sorry you thought I was accusing you of saying negative things about Ariadna. I was not. I was referring to the things posted earlier in this thread, and it was said by so many, I felt I had to jump in and give a better perspective and defend this woman. So much of what was being said was based on sheer assumption, no facts backing it, and it was very mean. But you were not involved in that.
As for Henry, you are correct in saying my watching him grow up was not personally. Perhaps I should have used different wording. You are NOT CORRECT in your accusation that I am delusional! When I said I’ve watch Henry grow up, I meant through pictures, seeing him play parts in Crimson Tide and the LOTR movies. (In TT he played a little boy preparing for battle. In ROTK he played both a grown-up soldier of Gondor and an Orc! He sprouted up to man-size in just one year, so yeah, I saw him grow up!) I watched his performance of reading his poetry in 3 Fools 4 April. I’ve seen a clip of his performance in his school play “Rent”. I’ve listened many times to his 2 – hour radio show on WBAR where he was a DJ who played and talked about different kinds of music and how they all tie into punk. I’ve also listened to his songs on his My Space page.
I would like to meet Henry even if Viggo was no where around, and I could talk to Henry without ever mentioning his father. I like Henry for Henry, not his dad.
It really is insulting when you assume you can read my mind and motives and tell me what I’m thinking. You are not a mind reader! You are not GOD. You know nothing about me, so stop telling me what I think! You are wrong! Besides, how do you know I haven’t been personally involved with Henry? I could have been one of his teachers at school or a family friend, but of course I wouldn’t tell anyone here. You never know, so stop acting as if you do.
I am really tired of arguing and trying to defend myself to total strangers. I first posted here because so much of the speculation was bogus and offensive, and I wanted to bring some facts in to stop the abuse against Ariadna. But it does no good, because facts don’t matter here. You will think whatever you want no matter what the facts say. It’s not fun for me. It’s too frustrating, so this is it for me. I’m done here. Viggo just called and invited me over for lunch with Henry and we are going swimming together.
P.S. Just in case you get your knickers in a twist with my contradictions in my last post, I feel I should inform you; that last sentence was a sarcastic joke.
Have fun Ladies, but play nice!
@Lionheart
Oh don’t leave Lionheart, just because of one person. The rest of us have been nice to you. If I left because of what one person said to me on a site, I would never go on the internet!!
@Lionheart and ZsuZsa
Besides, you two have a lot in common; you might be the only ones here that actually like Ariadna. If you two leave then we all agree, how boring.
@Lionheart
Please don’t leave the forum just because of one person! Your insights and thoughts are important – I think we all need to agree to disagree and do it in a civil manner.
Now, anyone seen VM of late? Where’s he at? Where’s AG at?
Just to set the record straight ZsuZsa, I think saying I am calling VM a liar is a bit harsh. I don’t think he outright lies; I think he just plays around with the truth sometimes. For instance, he has admitted being bored in an interview and telling the reporter it is in his contract to be home for Halloween. That story has been repeated for years and he finally admitted it was not true. In another interview he stated that he and Ariel Dorfman discussed presenting Purgatorio and that Professor Dorfman was the one who wanted and chose Ariadna. The way he phrased it, if you did not know the situation between VM and AG you would think VM had nothing to do with choosing her. Absolutely no one believes this. He also made it sound as if AG was doing them a great favor by starring in Appaloosa and they were so lucky that she consented to be in the film. Even AG herself could not believe that one, she said so herself. So as much as I like him, he does have a tendency to stretch the truth a bit, but then again don’t we all do that from time to time. That’s what I think he did in that article. The interview was given before AG split from her husband. What else could he say?
you must believe what you want to believe ann. however, if we are all setting the record straight, in the interview viggo confirmed that he is taking part in the talking cure so the interview was given after ariadna and david split so he could have confirmed a relationship if it was true but he denied it instead.
quote:-
For example, David Cronenberg just invited me to perform Sigmund Freud in The Talking Cure, a wonderful story by Christopher Hampton and I could not say no.
@ZsuZsa
You are correct regarding the date of the article. I thought it was earlier.
Saw this on youtube about Ed Harris and VM talking about Appaloosa and toward the end, Ed is talking about “Katie” the part AG played in the movie – listen and tell me what you think – something is not right -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KfqcSqEaAY&feature=PlayList&p=81225D45A54FB129&playnext_from=PL&index=111
@Cindy
I watched the video and Ed makes it sound as if VM and AG really like each other and love to work together. I don’t believe for one moment that he found her by looking through pictures and tapes, I am sure VM recommended her for the part and there is nothing wrong with a friend recommending a friend so why all the over explaining? Just say he recommended her for the part what was the big deal? That’s what I found weird, his making this big deal out of going over all the facts of choosing her. He made it look more suspicious. What did you find wrong?
@ Ann: I do not think AG’s people will deny the rumours it is fantastic publicity for her – more work for her, more money for them…..they won’t deny this, it is in their interest NOT to deny it.
I was also under the impression that the Argentina interview was given this year, after AG’s spilt – so Viggo would be talking in the present….
@ Ann & Cindy: I don’t believe Ed chose AG from photos etc he would never have heard of her if it wasn’t for Viggo – Viggo 100% got her this job. From the interview Cindy linked – Ed is constant and confident in his answers, until he comes to the AG bit, he is then hesitant, and he is trying to think of what to say, like it isn’t so natural. He also looks down a lot as if he is making it up or choosing his words carefully……I don’t believe him. I can’t even remember if she sent a photo or video – it was such a “good” audition – he can’t remember what or how it took place? Because it didn’t and he is making it up and lying……LOL
@ Lionheart: I think you are right with the Iceland/Twitter remark, it is assummed from the description given that is was AG.
@ Everyone – I find it odd that Viggo can get out of work for his “sick” mother and skip off with AG (possibly) around the world and travel around – but then when it comes to Dennis Hopper’s funeral I’m not actually sure he was there, nothing at present suggests he was there! So much for good friends….if they were that close I would expect him to be there come hell or high water – he was Henry’s Godfather!!!! Anyone prove me wrong and know different?
@Fofo
I agree with you totally about everything. The only thing I am not sure of is the Twitter description if the woman in question did have dark skin since AG is very fair. But I still think it is probably her.
I also found it very strange that Ed Harris was over explaining the choosing of AG and the part of her and Viggo looking so happy together it was very weird.
Viggo’s name has not been mentioned in any of the news reports as being at Dennis’s funeral and was not at his bedside either. I like you find this incredible. He was rumored to be in Barcelona when Dennis was sick near the end and then he was seen in Argentina the week of the funeral. If Dennis was Henry’s godfather wouldn’t they both be there? It is incredibly strange and the Viggo sites are not saying a word about it.
I think people also forget that the first sighing of Viggo & AG together was NOT the pictures at her house – but a charity basketball game in Madrid in December – I have never seen pictures but they were described as “inseperable”….
http://www.que.es/ultimas-noticias/sociedad/200912240003-viggo-mortensen-ariadna-gil.html
http://mujer.terra.es/muj/corazon/articulo/viggo-mortensen-ariadna-gil-37914.htm
Another full link here…..
The men in this industry have opportunities no average man has. If you only could see what I see, I have very little respect for men. I thought Viggo was different. I am convinced now that men are weak and unscrupulous by nature, and I implore men around the world to prove me wrong. Stop being so pathetic guys. Have some self respect by respecting others. Your “little guy” will lose his power one day, and all you will be left with is your legacy of your treatment of all humans.
I Cant belive he would do anything like this, married woman, he has weird types of girls. what does his boy think of this, i wonder if he’s introduced them, least there hope for all the other girls, she not really attractive. sigh.
@fofo and ann
I just felt that Ed was not telling the truth – it just seemed too forced, too contrived – kind of kept looking at Viggo as if he was wondering if he should be telling it this way or not …. I think Viggo did suggest her and Ed knew that Viggo and AG were lovers or at least suspected it…
I meet Ariadna Gil in Cigar House in Barcelona, I say you and Viggo are a pair and nice pair I think. She says yes, thank you.
I think they not nice pair, I like it not. I think this is bad or wrong.
I no more like Viggo for this and Ariadna get work as Viggo say so to his friends.
Lupe 2 words of advice to you-1) get a life and quite sticking your nose into others and 2) seek therapy
@Lupe
When did you met Ariadna? Was this recently?
@luthien
If you are so above it all and have a life then why are you on a site about Viggo’s girlfriends? This is a site to speculate about celebrity girlfriends. Lupe has every right to say whatever she wants. If you don’t like it, then don’t come here.
To:argent
I’m on this site because i happen to be a fan of Viggo Mortensen and one of the other fan sites alerted us to this site and all the gossip that was going on. I could care less what an actor or actress does in there spare time but to gossip without any basis of fact,is cruel. Do you like people to make up gossip and lies about you? How does it feel when someone says something maliciuos to you or about you? If I was so into this gossip don’t ya think I would have replied a long time ago? I know, to many questions for you to actually answer. Do you have kids? How would you feel if their friends spread a rumour about YOU cheating on your husband. Its easy when you have the anonymity of the web for peoples truest and cruelest charcters to come out. One more question, if you actually got to meet Viggo Mortensen face to face would you say some of the harsh things that are being posted on this site?
@ argent
if you are a fool then maybe you will believe lupe but if you are intelligent you will treat her words for what they are – fabrication.
@fofo
the couple who were inseperable at a charity basketball match were the other couple in the article you linked to. you should read things properly and fully before making wild and exaggerated claims.
all the people who argue the case for a romance seem not to read things properly like i said in a previous comment. because you want it to be true you will read into things meanings that are not there like with the video of ed harris and so on and so forth. you cannot accept that you may have been wrong and that is why lupe posts what she does. do you all really think that ariadna would not comment publicly but then tell something like that to a complete stranger in a cigar shop. how convenient. too convenient.
En Barcelona is a Pipe Club, I am member also Ariadna we have meet before in past years y speak in the club. En May I visit the club I see her y we talk. I do not say I hear things but say to her you are a nice couple and she say thank you. nothing more. make not a big thing of it – this happens I think.
@luthien
I responded to your post because you attacked Lupe personally, just like you did me claiming I am stupid. This site is about girlfriends and she was making a comment and has every right to. What she said was not cruel, she just stated she met AG and she said thank you regarding VM.
While we are speaking, how do you know so surely that they are not seeing each other? How could you possibly know this? You can’t unless you are in their inside circle of friends, which I don’t believe for one minute you are.
Children are influenced mostly by their parents and their actions, not by the internet. It’s AG’s divorce that will affect her children, not what we say on some website. If I was lucky enough to meet VM, then I might say something like Lupe, I don’t know it would depend on the situation.
@ZsuZsa
I never said I believed Lupe or not, I just defended her right to speak without being attacked personally. I have my own speculations regarding VM and AG which I have posted, one was to you that you never answered.
@luthien
One more thing all these other VM sites have their speculation pages and AG is mentioned VERY often. I find it very hypocritical to judge other people when you are also speculating on VM’s love life and most of them do, some hide it.
@argent
Do you think highly of people who lie to YOUR face-according to her post thats what she did. How do you know she’s not lying about meeting Ariadna in a cigar shop? You give your trust away awful easily. Do you LIKE to believe the worst in people? Does that make you feel better about yourself?
As far as them seeing each other,thats their business. But to acuse someone of adultry without proof is slander. And if you want to take it a step further, its bearing false witness. Maybe Lupe did meet Ariadna in a cigar shop,I’m betting if she did then Ariadna will read this and find out how decieitful the person is. You have no proof either way, Viggo stated that Ariadna and Christina were Colleges. He chooses not to address false rumours. Thats what he stated in a interview,why keep harping on this subject.
You talk about inside circles, Why do you believe lupe ? And you do believe her or else you wouldn’t be posting yourself. Afterall I also have a right to post MY COMMENTS. I don’t see you defending my right to post. By the way I didn’t call lupe “stupid” I told her she needs to get a life and to seek therapy. Are you sure your not the one calling people stupid? I don’t specutlate on Viggos love life, I just want to know when his next movie will be out. In fact i could care less about Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Gerard Butler, etc.etc,etc love life’s. True others dospeculate about Viggo’s love life,but they don’t do it maliciously, as many on this site have.
@luthien
I do not have to defend your right to post because no one has attacked you. You are the attacker. I did not say you called Lupe stupid. You implied I was, and that I could not answer more than one question at a time. I also said I do not know if Lupe is truthful, none of us do.
As far as the other sites are concerned many do discuss VM and AG and think they are together, so according to you that is speculating on adultery. Many of these sights also do not believe that article either.
Also, do you actually believe AG will read this? I find that hard to believe. By the way I have said many times that I do not think they are together. I just don’t like your posts that assume you are better than everyone else. Yet you are here.
You said other sites alerted you, who are you the internet police?
OUCH!!! I hate confrontations whether they be in person or internet – we all have our opinions and have the freedom to express them but I think we also have a responsibility to be temperate in our expressions of them and to be careful of others.
I guess we need to be more careful about judging anyone, whether it’s Viggo or Ariadna or people on this site. Be at peace with all as much as possible. Forgive me if I have offended anyone.
@argent
Excuse me? You have singled me out and YOU ARE attacking me ,how come lupe hasn’t defended herself ,are you her spokesperson. You seem to be targeting me because I think its stupid to lie to someones face. Thats what lupe did to Ariadna. Yet you defend her behavior. How did you come to this site? I was honest and told you how I came to this site,why don’t you do the same.
I never attacked you until you attacked me.
I didn’t coment on anyone elses post until you got yourself involved. Maybe its your own insecurities you feel that make you think my posts suggest I’m above it all.
If you sence venom in my posts its only in response to the venom in yours.
Once again the other sites speculate, people have the right to do that however the other sites that I have read aren’t so hateful. Furthermore if an actor or actress makes a statement, I take it for what they say. According to you since people don’t believe what they say,why should any of them ever comment to their fans? Whats the point,they’ve already made up their minds so the truth is irrelavent.
As far as you thinking that Ariadna wouldn’t read this, do you know her and her agent? I would think actors and actresses want to know what their fans are thinking. Viggo has stated in several interviews that he does check out the fan sites and what they are saying. as far as being the internet police, where have I reported that your in violation. Once again I responded to Lupe,then you got involved. Seems to me your the internet police.
@Cindy
I agree cindy i don’t enjoy confrontations either but I won’t back down from one. I addressed Lupe not argent, it was argent who attacked my post ,stating I think I’m “better”. Well ya I do think I’m better than Lupe,I don’t go lying to peoples faces. Is that a bad thing?
@luthien
Lying is not ok. When faced with the decision to be “polite but lie” or be blunt and honest – I guess I would take the road of “no comment”.
Thank You Cindy-this was my point .Lupe delibertly set out to decieve Ariadna by asking making the statement. She interpreted Ariadnas comment to what she wanted to hear then lyed to her face.
After reading all of these posts what I find interesting is that all Ariadna has to do is have her PR person issue a statement denying the rumors and most of this will all go away. I brought this up before and Fofo suggested they do not deny it because it is publicity.
However, if my children were a concern, no amount of publicity in the world would be worth it. I would deny the rumors. The fact that she has not done this is what is fueling all this speculation. There will always be people who believe gossip not matter what, but the majority of people will go away if she just denies it.
VM, as I said before has been known to stretch the truth when it comes to AG so that article was not taken as seriously. If AG issues a statement from her PR Company, I think that most people will believe it and go away. They did issue a statement and said no comment, which just continues the gossip.
There will always be speculation about celebrity’s love lives. It has been like that since the beginning of Hollywood and many other celebrities have it MUCH worse than these two. Brad Pitt and George Clooney, that were brought up before, cannot go anywhere without the press following them and there are a lot of others. The most awful things you can imagine are said about Angelina Jolie and George’s Italian girlfriend. VM and AG are rarely hounded by the paparazzi. It is the price that comes with fame and nothing we say or do here will stop it.
AG not denying this rumor is making everyone think it is true. If she sees denying it as “not rectifying false rumors” as VM said, then she will have to put up with the rumors continuing.
@Ann you stated “The fact that she has not done this is what is fueling all this speculation.”
- Actually whats fueling the “speculation” is a bunch of nosey fans.
I came on this site and posted a couple of months ago and I CANNOT believe you people are still discussing these two. There are 200 replies, you must be joking. Viggo and this Adriana met on a movie set, had an affair and she left her husband for him. It is the oldest story in the world. She doesn’t deny the rumors because they are probably TRUE!! End of story, that’s it. Who cares? Viggo will have moved on to his next woman and you will all be still here discussing this one. Leave it alone and move on it’s not worth it. Just enjoy his films.
I have watched this discussion unfold with interest.
A word to the wise people. Lupe is an alter ego for someone who posts elsewhere under various names and who’s hobby it is to wind up Viggo fans. She has done it before and admitted previously that she and her friends find it amusing to post something then sit back and watch the fans go at each other. As soon as the discussion was appearing to move away from Viggo and Ariadna she had to post something to keep it going or her previous efforts would all have been in vain. Her style and posting habits elsewhere always give her away as they have on this occasion to those who know her from old.
I’m sure there are people here who will leap to her defence, convinced that people don’t do things like that and that is their perogative. Those who have enountered her previously however will not be taken in.
I’ve been watching and reading this page (and a few others) on the subject of AG and VM. Admittedly the same thing comes up all the time. But this page in the only one still going on the subject. Personally I am just waiting for (more!) pictures to come out before I make a final judgement, but something in my head/heart says it is true about thembeing together.
What I find more shocking is the response to the discussion from fan to fan and the attacking that takes place. Freedom of speech and respect etc is lacking. As others have said both AG and VM could stop it all by simply making a statement through PP or her agent….I certainly wouldn’t want anyone gossiping aout me if it isn’t true, especially if my children are involved..but clearly Viggo isn’t that bother because he isn’t stopping it. He has answered questions vaguely before in the past, only hearing the part of the question he wants to and only giving his answer in reference to that part of the question he chose to hear – I think he has done this with the Argentina article – I think he heard the Christine R question and answered we are colleagues – the plural answer is in reference to him and Christine….it a convient way of answers…..
As for the fan with multiple names messaging right, left and centre – this has been mentioned and brought up before. But I actually don’t think it is true. I wouldn’t link any random messages on here as being the same person. But it is always something that is thrown up by the fans who (appear) not to like the idea that VM and AG are together. I could say that being that most of the attacks on fans come from fans who (appear) not to think AG and VM are together, I could say that is one fan poses as several people to attack fans who are thinking on their feet and are making valid points to a discussion. Remember a discussion is just that, points and comments, suggestions and view points. A discussion is not insults and attacking remarks and these do seem to come from the fans who don’t believe/feel AG and VM are together…to these people I say don’t come to the page, because you aren’t joining the discussion you are simply bringing in hostility……those fans that think they are together are making valid points, they are justifying their views and opinions so over time if they are wrong, they will figure it out and they are likely to be fans who say “gosh we were wrong, we jumped the boat, misjudged, i’m sorry”…..but if they are right….the fans who don’t believe it will continue to insult the other fans and feel that Viggo has “lied to them” and “betrayed them” and they will stop being Viggo fans…and disappear forever slandering Viggo’s fans themselves because he lied.
I’m not pointing the fingers as anyone – people here are more than capable fo reading what is going on. I don’t see the examples or justifications of any kind coming from the viggo fans who don’t think they are together – I only see them thrown insults and accusations.
On another subject…I’m also very interested to hear why Viggo wasn’t at Dennis Hopper’s funeral? Aren’t you fans who are supporting Viggo curcious as to why he wasn’t at his best friends funeral? This surprised me more than anything with what Viggo has said about Dennis…and isn’t he Henry Godfather?
I think perhaps we are ALL wrong about Viggo and this year Viggo is really showing his true colors to us all….and I think we are all or soon will be disappointed by him….and yes his lies…but I’m think the last 8 months his got himself into quite a web of them.
Just my opinion.
JJ
@JJ –
we do seem to be a bit antagonistic don’t we? I think we can all express our opinions without attacking one another – one of those things we learned in kindergarten, yes?
And you brought up an interesting point – why wasn’t Viggo at Dennis Hopper’s funeral? I thought I had read somewhere that Viggo’s role in the new movie was more of a supporting role and that he wasn’t needed all the time for shooting. Surely he could have gotten off and traveled to the states to attend, yes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAQUxRZ_U3o&playnext_from=TL&videos=XCi9VMIG6SA&feature=grec_browse
something from 2008
from May 2009 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2lI1qIav1M&feature=related
wish I knew Spanish
I think they had already spilt when this latter interview was done – David looks fine and comfortable but AG doesn’t – she keeps looking at David and fidgeting and doesn’t appear comfortable at all..nervous I would say…..I actually do believe that David threw her out, I could see that happening.
I think the uncomfortable feeling from AG come from her guilt and the fact that she knows she has done wrong.
@ JayneJ
I too have been watching this page with interest and a certain amusement at how people twist things to fit their own agenda. Attributing certain things to the naysayers and others to the yaysayers. It just means the whole thing goes round in circles until someone posts yet more misinformation as with the poster here who claimed Viggo and Ariadna were seen at a basketball match and said to be inseperable when in fact it was a completely different couple who were also mentioned in the article.
The fan with multiple names is not something that I made up on a whim. When you follow different boards and sources, certain ‘styles’ and agendas stand out as do posting habits. This person is someone who has been ‘discussed’ at length and who is known to members and administrators of boards all over the internet. Her style and posting habits, among other things, give her away every single time she posts under yet another of her many personas.
Now here’s a thing… you theorise that the naysayers are those who don’t want to see Viggo and Ariadna together. Well, I don’t care one way or another as it doesn’t impact on my life whether they are or not, yet, I am a naysayer who doesn’t, for a variety of reasons which I have discussed elsewhere in private, see anything at this time that would confirm a romantic relationship between these two people. Guess what… the people who tended to come up with the same reasons and to the same conclusion were 80% also not actually bothered one way or another who Viggo spends time with in private because it doesn’t affect their day to day lives or their own relationships. They are people who don’t doubt that Viggo has relationships and even suggest he may be in one right now, but not with this particular woman. Your ‘they only say that because they don’t want them to be together’ argument falls down when a reasonable discussion between intelligent people is taking place that isn’t interrupted by people with multiple personas with an agenda and an axe to grind.
As for your suggestion that either party could issue a statement, why would they issue official statements on a matter that is hardly reported anywhere other than some Spanish gossip magazines and a couple of Spanish newspapers five months ago? It isn’t exactly world news and has been totally ignored by the most of the rest of the worlds media with the exception of a gossip magazine in Denmark and Gente in Argentina.
Aahh yes… the Gente magazine comment. What was it you said?
Quote:- He has answered questions vaguely before in the past, only hearing the part of the question he wants to and only giving his answer in reference to that part of the question he chose to hear – I think he has done this with the Argentina article – I think he heard the Christine R question and answered we are colleagues – the plural answer is in reference to him and Christine….it a convient way of answers…..
How do you know what he heard and what he didn’t? For all his faults, Viggo is known for being very attentive and listening closely to what interviewers ask him. He is known for going over and over things even after the interview has finished and we have read on several occasions how he thinks of something later and calls the interviewer to add or clarify something he has said. He heard exactly what that interviewer asked him and he gave a very definite answer. Rather than his being, as you put it ‘a convenient way of answers…’ your take is ‘a convenient way to carry on a non-event and perpetuate false information’.
I love this part of your post…
Quote:- …those fans that think they are together are making valid points, they are justifying their views and opinions so over time if they are wrong, they will figure it out and they are likely to be fans who say “gosh we were wrong, we jumped the boat, misjudged, i’m sorry”…..but if they are right….the fans who don’t believe it will continue to insult the other fans and feel that Viggo has “lied to them” and “betrayed them” and they will stop being Viggo fans…and disappear forever slandering Viggo’s fans themselves because he lied.
What valid points and how have they not insulted those who have a differing opinion? Look around and read the posts here and elsewhere where the people perpetuating the rumours have called those who don’t believe them stupid and worse. They yaysayers have been sneering and opinionated on many of the gossip sites where the speculating is taking place and you are continuing that trend here.
You ask for justifications from the non-believers. Justification of what? Justification to have a different opinion? They have seen the same pictures and read the same reports but have come to a different conclusion based on confirmed sightings etc. and known timescales that mean he would have needed to be in two places at once etc. In addition, you can add to that the fact that the gossip magazines either lied or misrepresented the facts with their timescale for the pictures in December which was not exactly what they printed as their captions to accompany those pictures. It is what is commonly known as ‘being economical with the truth’.
@Delores
Do you think this person who has an axe to grind with Viggo is a former girlfriend? I just want your opinion out of curosity.
@Delores
I too if you read my posts agree with ZsuZsa and the rest that they are not together, of course this is my opinion since I don’t know them. I would like your opinion on something. Viggo is never photographed with anyone at any important events. It looks as though he is always alone.
Many give the reason as he has been with Ari and she was married so they had to hide for the last couple of years. I would think that if he had a girlfriend why she is not with him publicly at some very important events in his life. I would want to be by his side at the Oscars, he was given many awards last summer and of course the Chapel dedication. Most women would be so proud to be with a man like this and share these moments, not many would want to be hidden. I guess she could be somewhere in the back-round but it is strange that he is never photographed with anyone. This is the only thing I find that doesn’t fit and would make someone think he was with a married woman. I would like your opinion.
@ luthien
No, she isn’t a former girlfriend though she once admitted she had a desire to be a future girlfriend and claimed to have connections that might enable her to cross paths with him.
@ Diana
I don’t believe for a moment that if Viggo absolutely found the right woman he would keep her hidden away. Following a split between Ariadna and David there would be absolutely no reason now for them not to appear together as a couple. It is over six months since the alleged split and more than enough time for the dust to have settled and for them to come out as a couple particularly if an affair between them were the reason. He and Exene never hid away as such and then with Lola, though he didn’t publicly ‘tout’ her around at premieres, they attended events together, lived together, were photographed together at events and she was with him when FotR was first shown at Cannes. He never denied their relationship and after they split even commented once that ‘we have had a wonderful relationship’ in the same way he always remarked that he and Exene had a great relationship and remained very close. When Viggo is in love he doesn’t appear inclined to hide that or his partner completely away.
@Delores
You make a lot of sense. Do you believe that he has just not found anyone that important yet? Maybe by choice he rather be free to live his life as he chooses without the need to answer to anyone. But it does start all the gay rumors like some have posted on this board.
@ Delores – Why do you not name this person who messages many times – let us know her country and names so we can know to not answer her.
The Dust has not settled as you say. Divorce in Spain does not come easy and it would not be wise to be seen with another man who quickly.
I also think you jump on JayneJ too fast so I think JayneJ has a point, sorry. I think she was made general statements she was not out to fight.
@ Lupe – I know such pipe House exists but you are unable to prove what you say. So I think fans will not believe you.
@ Everyone – I made the basketball article on here, I receive it from a friend. English and Spanish are not my first language. I think instead of saying to fan “you get these wrong and spread false rumours” you should encourage good translation and be nice not hit out, and say this is mistransalted it say this….I think that nicer than the attacking, this is why I agree with JayneJ.
We do not know Lupe lie – so you can not attack her either.
I hear that in May Viggo visit Barcelona – I not believe this I think a fan say this and it spread but there was nothing heavy I think. But other fans give this strength by saying it over and over.
Before anyone chews my head off this is only speculation and discussion. I agree with Fofo. After working with divorced couples, six months is not nearly enough time for “dust to settle.” I don’t know the individual situation with AG and her spouse but when a couple with significant holdings and young children divorce it usually takes quite awhile, even if you agree on everything and we don’t know if they do. With custody and visitation rights involved a woman might be very careful about her private life, especially being seen with a man she might have committed adultery with and I don’t know if she did or not, but that could be a valid reason not to be out in the open until everything is completed.
Delores you answered Diana that VM does not hide his girlfriends. Do you actually think it has been 7 or 8 years since he has been with someone he cares for? That is about the time he broke off with Lola. If not AG then who else would hide? Why hide? I don’t want to fight or insult but I would like your opinion if possible.
As far as that imposter posing as several people, I would like to know more about her so we can avoid her in the future. If one person is doing this then it is awful. It has been said she posts on Spanish sites so she must know the language, is she from Spain or Argentina? I am still not convinced that Lupe is this person. If she wanted to make up a story about VM or AG she could have done a lot better than that one. I know from vacationing in Barcelona, that there is a famous pipe club there that has a lot of members and is visited by Spanish stars. I heard Javier Bardem goes there.
If someone wishes to respond that is fine, but I have not insulted anyone here on this board, I just asked for opinions and I am not saying that AG and VM committed adultery. I just commented on the length of divorce proceedings and like Diana stated it is a little strange that he has not been seen with a woman in public since he met AG (I am not counting Christina, we know they are friends). If he has and I am wrong I will be the first to admit it.
Where exactly does Viggo live Stryder? (I need to do a speech on him)
I disagree that six months is not sufficient time for the dust to settle once divorce proceedings are instigated. Often people move on after a bereavement in less time than that. It would depend on the individuals.
The divorce part is the tying up of the loose ends. Whatever caused the divorce or separation has already happened by then and the divorce is the rubber stamping, the closure and the moving on to the next stage in your life.
If Ariadna and David actually parted in December, and for all you know it may have been before that if she allegedly already had moved into her own apartment by December last year, then the marriage was breaking down before that. No-one makes a snap decision to walk out on a marriage unless they have good reason or the differences are irreconcilable. It takes months before that point where you come to a decision that the marriage cannot be saved. The moving out is the first step toward saying ‘this is over’. The links I have posted above clearly state that a divorce with both parties agreeing can be finalised in two months and if one party doesn’t agree, can still be finalised in six months. On that basis, if Viggo and Ariadna had an affair which resulted in her marriage ending, she could easily be divorced by now. That being the case, if she gave up on her marriage for Viggo then there is no reason why they couldn’t reasonably have appeared as a couple by now if there were any truth in the rumours. In fact, if an affair were the cause and it was David who filed for divorce then, unless Ariadna were going to fight the divorce and try to save her marriage, there would be no reason for them not to be together. Rather than that, Viggo, whichever way you want to cut it, has denied the alleged affairs with both Christina and Ariadna, Christina has denied an affair with Viggo, and there is no word from Ariadna.
Ann, you are the second person to ask me to name this persons other identities. For a variety of reasons that is not going to happen and you can either take me at my word or not. It is your choice. I am really not that concerned as to whether you believe me or not. If you feel there is substance to Lupe and her story then that is up to you. I am aware that the pipe club mentioned exists and it is possible that Ariadna is one of the many people who frequent the establishment. It is Lupe’s account of what happened there that I seriously doubt.
I see no further purpose in explaining why I believe the rumours aren’t true as I see little point in going round and round in circles. It is obvious that there are those who want to believe the tale, who are convinced it is happening and who are not prepared to be open to any other possibility. That’s fine and I shall not waste any more time discussing the matter with those who have such closed minds.
As for those who are prepared to exchange opinions and discuss reasonably, I fear this is not the place where that can happen. There have been numerous reasonable discussions on the matter elsewhere but this site is too open to people who simply want to mess with minds and then sit back and watch the fun.
Thank you Delores for your response, but I had wanted your opinion on this part of my post, not the divorce:
“Delores you answered Diana that VM does not hide his girlfriends. Do you actually think it has been 7 or 8 years since he has been with someone he cares for? That is about the time he broke off with Lola. If not AG then who else would hide? Why hide? I don’t want to fight or insult but I would like your opinion if possible.”
I understand if you don’t want to discuss it. It is totally up to you and I will not bring it up again if you choose not to respond. As for the other sites I would like to know which ones they are, I only know of one site that might discuss this, but their speculation pages are hidden, to only a certain few, so I really don’t know of any other place. I am very open to other opinions; I just don’t want to be attacked if mine is different.
I couldn’t care less about these two or their alleged affair, but I did watch the youtube video and it seems to me that Ed Harris all but admitted that he hired Ariadna Gil because she is a friend of Viggo’s and “they look good together.” He also made a point of saying how happy they looked in a picture that “someone showed him.” Could that person have been Viggo himself. Duh. Does he need to spell it out for you folks? The two are obviously an item.
If Viggo is named in Divorce it could go on for a year or more – so VM and AG will hide for this time. It is in the eyes of the Spanish law/courts you need to remember – if it was simple spilt then divorce may one take 6 months to a year – it also depends on how busy the courts are. But if someone is mentioned as in cheating then this is considered and AG will get less than if the marriage just spilt. Therefore it will take longer and AG must not be seen with VM for her to argue the marriage spilt natural and not because of someone – it is hard and difficult and some divorce they takes years.
I think he has had other women since Lola – but I think no long term, only short. I can not believe he has been single all this time.
@ Delores: I think JayneJ comment is right when she say some fans give examples and some fans not. You ask us to believe you 100% and take you at your word. But you say do not believe Lupe at all. But you give us no help to believe you. we have only both of you on here – both only use words. Lupe make statement and you say don’t believe her, you make statement but we should believe you. For all we know you might be the person you speak of – you say this person claims things and implies but has not evidence and gives no examples…..but here you imply things and say “trust me” but give no examples. I think your actions are similiar to those of the person you speak of. Lupe made statement and got question and answered this question. You make statement and say trust me but no example or answer, you say I no answer and will not. Lupe has not pointed at one person and been harsh with anyone but you have been harsh with people.
I am sorry but I think I be with Lupe and believe her.
It take long time but I find this:
http://www.bpipaclub.com/whatisbp.htm
@ Fofo
Considering you say English and Spanish are not your first languages, you seem to be sounding awfully as though you are an expert on divorce in Spain. The links I gave above are seemingly quite clear that if both parties agree then it can be done very quickly. It also states that neither party has to give any justification as to why they want a divorce so unless David has named Viggo they could divorce very quickly.
All that aside though, if you feel that for you, the rumours are true then that is your perogative and not for me to try to change your mind.
I am aware of the existence of the pipe house my point was that it’s existence does not mean the alleged encouter as told by Lupe is true, but, you want to believe the story so that’s fine.
You don’t have to trust me either if you don’t want to. You are free to trust other complete strangers if the story they tell is one you prefer to hear.
Have fun, good luck and goodbye.
@Delores
Just an addition to my previous post, there are people on this board that are “naysayers” as you put it. ZsuZsa, Diana and Argent all agree that there is not enough evidence at this time to believe VM and AG are together, although Argent for different reasons thinks VM is gay. So there are diverse opinions. I am one of the “yaysayers” at this point because I think there is evidence that is suspicious of it. I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong since I wish VM was not involved in breaking up someone’s marriage. I much rather he were in love with someone single and I could care less if it were a woman, man or goat for that matter as long as he was happy. As I have said previously, the fact he has not been seen with a woman in public since meeting AG, is strange to me. It looks as though they have been together. You believe he would not hide a relationship and it is hard to believe there has not been one in all these years. I would like your opinion, but if you choose not to answer, then I understand and we will leave it at that. But I would love to be proven wrong and will be the first to admit it.
Divorce take long time in most country if a 3 person is involved and there are children, not to forget any bsuiness that is held together. Courts will not be so favourable to AG if she has broken the marriage through an affair and continues to see another man – so she will hide.
I think also she will try to make out she not get jobs through Viggo and affair not been on long.
I agree with Ann – I want them not to be together because I don’t think a person should take jobs from another and also I don’t wish him to have ended someone else’s marriage and of course bcause of the children – the young one is only 4. This is bad wrong I think.
Portuguese is my language and many things are the same…..divorce will take over a year before the marriage is said to be by law over.
It’s interesting that no one answers ann’s question. Why is vm not seen with a woman in public for years? Is it because they know the truth that there is no woman. If he is in a relationship with another woman she must be very understanding to let him go on vacation with ari gil and visit her on movie sets. A guy would not care. Just sayin………
Has anyone thought that yes, perhaps Viggo and Ariadna were involoved but perhaps he has regrets. Maybe his conscience is rearing its ugly head and he is not feeling at ease with what he has done. While she on the other hand still has strong feelings and is trying to hopefully salvage a relationship with him once her divorce is finalized. Maybe thats why she doesn’t deny the rumours while he does? Then again maybe they really are just friends but she feels more than friendship for him and doesn’t want him to think she’s not interested by dening the rumours? I know this is all speculation but no one but him and her no the truth,and they’re not really willing to discuss private matters with us. Can you blame them, afterall its not like he sold us all this wholesome family guy image like Tigerwoods did.
I answer Ann’s question – I think he has not been seen with a female because there has been no long term girlfriend and because she not famous, so then I think you would not see her….easy questions and answer I think.
@Speculator: This may be true but I think not. He would not go see her and encourage her I think if this was true…..
To Fofo
I think he would if he was still a friend. How can someone stay apart from someone they care so much about? That was back in March that he was seen visiting her on the first day that they started shooting her new movie. Strange that they haven’t been seen together since, however Viggo was sighted all over NYC after his trip back from Argentina. I have known several woman who are friends with men whom they are in love with however the men see them as just friends and vice versa. Lets not forget that he admits that he has been doing research for his role in his new movie. Perhaps as females we all think its romantic that he’s “saving” himself until her divorce is final. Many fans will look for things that are not there. Maybe he went to Croatia to break up with her, face to face. I quess time will tell. But I bet until Viggo gets a steady girlfriend many will continue to postulate the theory that he and Ariadna are secretly pining for each other and are meeting up in remote places. It makes for juicy gossip.
Spec,
I think you may be right, but V has presented himself as someone who would never break up a family. He has tried to maintain a wholesome image, and this is why I think your “speculations” may be more on the mark than any of us. Viggo is a wanderer, and it is likely he would be the one to break it off while she pines.
@Fofo
You could be right, but it does seem strange that in 5 years there has been no one. Even if it is casual there might have been a photo out at a restaurant or something. A lot of movie stars date women that are not famous actresses and we still see them walking down the street or in a café. He might not be serious but there should be a least a date shot. If he was with AG then wanted to have a casual fling with someone else he would definitely hide.
@Spectator
You also make some very good points, but we really don’t know if they are together or not. AG is totally unknown in the US so no one would photograph her. She could have been in NYC; there are no pictures of VM he could have been with someone. She could also be in Germany; it is a closed set so we have no idea of knowing. We know VM is there, yet there have been no photos. There are many times no one knows where VM is so they can be together. AG doesn’t seem to be too famous outside of Spain since they did not know her in Croatia; they only said he was with girls. If they are together and we don’t know this, I don’t think a woman would leave a long marriage for a guy if she is not encouraged from his end.
I agree with Fofo and Spec but I have to admit I can’t imagine Viggo and AG not having slept with each other – if they are having an affair they are haing an affair – I don’t think there is anything about “saving” themselves for when the divorce is confirmed….I think they are well and truely in there.
I find it interesting that it is implied that Viggo may want out of the relationship? I think not, I think if he has decided he wants that female he will go after her regardless…..
@ Ann: I agree with Fofo and yourself – but I have to admit I have no wish to be famous etc so if it was me, I would find ways to be together without being caught and I think it is possible. Places like northern Idaho, Clayton and Cape Vincent aren’t going to bother him – I think it is only in LA, California that he is likely to be caught, and he simply just doesn’t meet a woman there…so it is easier than you think.
@ MJ: Your point is the reason I think some fans don’t like the idea of tem being together (as stated before by someone) because it would go against everything he has ever said and implied. Which of course makes his “lying” look worse than maybe it is…and why it stands out so much.
It is quite odd he appears to have gone out of his way for the past 5 yrs or so to work in Europe…..I think that also suggests to people there maybe a link – or perhaps he just fancies a huge change, that is also possible and that I understand as a wander myself
The fact is folks that time will tell if they are a couple. They can’t hide it forever. Ariadna may not be known here in the U.S. but if shes with Viggo,I believe the papparazzi will go out of there way to find out who she is. If the rumours are true,and I say that with a big IF ,then Viggo will show himself to be a liar. He has stated in the past that he would never break up a home and also that he would never get involoved with someone on the rebound after a divorce. He also talks of kindness toward others. Well its not kind to steal another mans wife or break up a childs home.
I agreed Spec and I think that is the bases of everyone’s attitude who doesn’t want to see them together….this is everyone’s arguement……hammer – nail etc……..this is the exact point everyone who is “against them” (being together) is saying……
Boy, have I missed a lot – really need to get internet at home –
anywho – some very good comments and very good questions – why no pictures of who he is with? Is he that good at staying under the radar from the papparazzi?
I know that I have asked the question before about fan “rage”, do you think that the fans in Spain thinking that AG and VM are together, VM being responsible for the breakup of her marriage with her being the major responsible party and they are “boycotting” her? Just a thought…..
I like to think that she is not with him – maybe it was just a fling and he is backing out or has been…. he could be using AG as a smokescreen for someone else.
I have heard that many people support David and do not like VM and AG because of how they treat the theatre people, I hear their names are dirt in Spain now – I believe because AG stay out of Spain for so long and I think now she will not work in Spain for a long time…maybe this is also that same for Viggo – not working in Spain again for a long time.
I like also what people say and I think people have say this before…..good comments I think.
Well having seen them together in Alatriste and having seen some of the candid photos (non-pap)taken when they were walking through a garden in Rome, i am not remotely suprized though a little confused -this is i saw the opening of Alatriste in Toronto-Viggo saw David C. from the front of the theatre and then bounded up the stairs of the theatre to give him a big kiss on the lips…sorry ..think he may play both sides now and again-
@fofo
Do you think that it will affect AG getting work outside of Spain? Where have you heard about David and the snubbing of AG? Is it in the papers or Spanish magazines?
@marni – what candid photos in Rome? What was not surprising and what has you confused? I’ve not seen the photos.
@ Cindy – I think Viggo get AG the movies outside Spain, she is not known outside of spain (and maybe Argetnina) so this is not a problem through Viggo I think. I read on internet not papers or magazines about David and AG – maybe on here to but I think not here another page like this.
I know of pictures of Rome that Marni speak of, but not of kissing David and AG, pictures of this?
Dear All-the photos were of viggo, AG and the other actress in Alatriste walking in a park, during the period of the promo tour for the file -they posed for photos and some were just candid shots -
i think all in all that if they are in fact an item,then I am not surprized because they have known each other a long time and maybe over time their friendship became something more…
I am though a little surprized and confused because based on the kiss Viggo gave David C.in Toronto, which was “interesting”, I would have thought his romantic interests lay in a different quarter … and for all who poo-poo a kiss all I can say you had to be there…quite passionate .yeesssrrrreeeehh
Question all? – how old are AG’s children? Is the youngest not 5? When did Ag and VM meet? Was it not in 2005?
Just on the net – Viggo will be in Argentina filming in 2011 – do you think AG will have a part in the film?
I see where you are going with that Cindy, 2005 + 5 = 2010. However, Leo is five going on six years old and Ariadna was pregnant before being offered the part of Maria and meeting Viggo.
@ Delores – I think not Cindy thing Viggo is father of child. I think Cindy say AG and VM have only known each other since 2005 and not so long as Marni says……the youngest child born just before Alatriste was filmed, they are I think 5 and 12…I did not see pictures of Rome with the other actress though only AG and VM.
I hope AG does not get part in Viggo’s film because I think this looks bad that she takes work from him – this is taking and she should not do.
If she is in more of his films I think they very much together and lies will no more hold them quiet.
If Viggo hooked up with AG soon after she had a new baby, that makes this even more despicable.
@Delores
This is what you posted a couple of days ago:
I see no further purpose in explaining why I believe the rumors aren’t true as I see little point in going round and round in circles. It is obvious that there are those who want to believe the tale, who is convinced it is happening and who are not prepared to be open to any other possibility. That’s fine and I shall not waste any more time discussing the matter with those who have such closed minds.
As for those who are prepared to exchange opinions and discuss reasonably, I fear this is not the place where that can happen. There have been numerous reasonable discussions on the matter elsewhere but this site is too open to people who simply want to mess with minds and then sit back and watch the fun.
But Delores in actuality you have not explained anything. You have said you have many reasons why you believe the rumors are false but you have voiced them only in private. That is not a discussion. I was very prepared to discuss this with you and I am very open to changing my opinion as I have posted earlier and you chose to ignore and not answer my post but are only too happy to jump back in when an incendiary one is posted such as Cindy’s. Why not discuss it reasonably as you suggested with an open mind and let us know your reasons. It seems like you are looking for the provocative posts and ignoring those that wish to have a rational discussion.
@Cindy
AG’s son is NOT Viggo’s. No one here has ever even suggested that because it is simply NOT true. Fofo voiced concern about the children because IF these rumors are true then this all started while the children are very young. No ever questioned paternity. We should leave these kids out of this discussion anyway.
@marni
VM and David are not having an affair. David has had two wives and several kids. He and VM like to play games in front of the media. That is all. I know argent has posted his or her feelings that VM is bi or gay, but I do not believe it since there is not one single shred of evidence anywhere other than some decade old LOTR gossip. There is not one story, nothing that would even slightly suggest that this is true.
One thing that no one has speculated yet is that Viggo just might be playing with the fans. He’s done it many times in the past. Afterall if I was him I’d be a bit irritated by the fact that people would willingly think the worst of me just because I’m a movie star. Also that people can be so close minded. Viggo has openly kissed both men and women alike. Remember he kissed just about all the members of LOTR passionately. Remember the kiss with Liv Tyler, Dominic Monaghan, Orlando Bloom, and Billie Boyd?! Maybe Viggo just chooses to be alone because of all the crap he has dig through. The women throwing themselves at him,him not knowing if they care for him or his status,or his money, or what he can do for them. Plus trying to fiqure out if your compatible in a normal relationship is hard enough, imagine what its like for him. If I had even half his money,I’d never marry becuase even with a pre-nup a person can make your life a living hell. Look at what happened to his good friend Dennis Hopper. There are many honest people out here but it is damn hard to waid through the decietful ones. The other thing is that if they really are just friends,all this gossip has got to make it uncomfortable in their relationaship. I do know someone that claims to know one of Viggo’s brothers and he stated that his brother says they are just friends and they have never been anything else.
@speculator
I am not one of those persons with a closed mind. If VM were to say he was gay tomorrow it would not change my admiration for him one bit. I just do not choose to make assumptions on his sexuality based on some old LOTR rumors and it seems that everyone you just named was from that movie. Orlando has been in committed relationships with women since then and has been with Miranda Kerr for years, Billy Boyd is married and just had a child, and Dominic Monaghan is with Evangeline Lilly. Aside from LOTR gossip and kidding around with Cronenberg there is nothing.
@ann
I never implied that Viggo was gay because of the fact that he kissed the various people mentioned,in fact I am impying the exact opposite. I think Viggo likes to have fun with the papparazzi and he just kisses people because he wants to and he cares for the people as human beings. The closed minded statement was for those who can’t understand how someone could live without having to have someone else in their life. There are many men who after they get divorced they never marry again. He has a complete life, maybe he doesn’t feel like he needs anyone. Personally I don’t think he’s gay or bio-I think he likes to see the way people react to different behavior. Afterall many of us,myself included, like to fit certain behaviors to certain labels. BTW, I don’t think Dominic is with Evanline Lilly anymore is he? I heard they broke up a long time ago. Not that it matters because i don’t think he’s gay either. You misread my intentions and my post. I hope I have shed some light onto what the meaning was from my previous post.
I thought this aesops fable was appropriate for all the discussions that have been going on here
The Wolf and the Lamb
By Aesop
A WOLF, meeting with a lamb astray from the fold, resolved not to lay violent hands on him, but to find some plea, which should justify to the lamb himself, his right to eat him.
He then addressed him: “Sirrah, last year you grossly insulted me.”
“Indeed,” bleated the lamb in a mournful tone of voice: “I was not then born.”
Then said the wolf: “You feed in my pasture.”
“No, good sir,” replied the lamb: “I have not yet tasted grass.”
Again said the wolf: “You drink of my well.”
“No,” exclaimed the lamb: “I never yet drank water, for as yet my mother’s milk is both food and drink to me.”
Upon which the wolf seized him and ate him up, saying: “Well! I won’t remain supper-less, even though you refute every one of my imputations.”
Moral:
The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny, and it is useless for the innocent to try by reasoning to get justice, when the oppressor intends to be unjust.
We each will always justify what we want to believe in our hearts to fit any scenero we wish to believe.
@ Ann
Why ‘reasonable discussion’ on this site is almost impossible is because a large number of people here are not open to ‘reasonable discussion’. I only responded to Cindy at all because it was clear where she was going. Viggo’s name has already been dragged through it here as an alleged marriage wrecker and Cindy appeared to be seeking to further that by having him as the father of one of Ariadna’s children – absurd!
For your information, speculation about Viggo being gay goes back years BEFORE the Lord of the Rings gossip and even before his marriage to Exene. It goes back to his and another Hollywood leading man’s much younger days and the ‘Gay Sex Polaroids’. There is more evidence suggesting it than you might care to think though much of it is no longer on the net as blogs and articles have disappeared over the years. They were so old and it was such a long time ago.
Many gay men do try marriage at some point in their lives until they can fully accept their sexuality and no longer feel pressure from family and friends to pretend they are otherwise. Many make great fathers. British comedian and drag artist Paul O’Grady is just one example. He married and has a grown up son now but it didn’t work, the couple split when their son was very young, he came to terms with his sexuality and moved on. So those who choose to throw up the ‘but he was married and has a son’ argument are under a sad illusion if they believe that it proves he can’t be gay.
From a woman’s point of view, gay men make the best friends too. They take you out, have fun, wine and dine you and then expect nothing more than your continued friendship at the end of the evening. They are less inhibited about displays of affection and love to hug, kiss and cuddle both men and women. Gay men go out of their way to make their women friends feel special and we love them for it.
Argh. Now I have to speak up, and don’t ask me for any details, because other people are involved and I will not indict them, but I will tell this; Viggo had his chance with a woman who truly loved him, whether he lived in a box by a pudddle and no one ever knew wno he was. This woman was not AG, and this woman was not famous. He blew it because he was so full of himself he threw away the one woman who truly did love him for who he was. He’ll be alone forever with that attitude. You can take what’s staring you in the face, or you can float alone on your own hubris.
I don’t think Cindy was implying that Viggo has fathered one of AG’s children – I think she was just implying that they haven’t known each other “for a long”…I’ve read before where fans have claimed or implied that AG and VM knew each other before Alatriste and they didn’t.
I can very much imagine Viggo is full of himself, I have seen him twice in person play up to the media and fans. And on two occassions when he got mad at the press he turned and almost knocked over a fan standing behind him and he didn’t batter an eyelid – I step forward and asked the young lady if she was alright.
I’m sure there have been a few women who have loved him for him but he hasn’t noticed but that also happens many times in a man’s life and not just when he is famous/wealthy.
As for playing up to the media/fans – I don’t know….what you have to remember is that everything that is being said on the internet can be picked up by anyone and everyone – so all this could/might be affecting the following people:
1) his sibling and their families
2) his parents
3) AG parents
4) David Trueba (imagine if AG and VM aren’t together the affect it must be having on him)
5) DT and AG’s children (again, if AG and VM aren’t together it is going to be more of a confusing time for them than divorce usually is for children).
6) Friends of both AG and VM (If I was friends with one of them I wouldn’t want to hear all this about them if it wasn’t true, I would feel hurt by what was being said and hurt that they (whichever one was my friend) wasn’t standing up for myself.
We’re talking family honour at stake here – both his and AG’s. We’re talking about people spreading rumours about their honesty, their reputation etc….this is why I think something should be said. To ignore it – is not a denial – it fuels it and makes things worse and then it all comes out it is true anyway they have no one to blame but themselves. They (either of them) can stop everything being said by saying something, I don’t think they will because as I’ve always said I think they are together and they think they can “get away with it” by remaining quiet and “hidden”..in fact if/when a few more pictures come out of them together and it all turns out true, I think it will look worse on both of them….just because you pretend it isn’t happening doesn’t mean it will go away!
I don’t think having a closed mind has anything to do with it….Viggo could be gay or bi or straight as far as I am concerned. He could hire “ladies of the night” for all I care, he could be a drug addict….I would still deem him very attractive and sexy but I would feel he is a twat with the latter two!! But embarking on an affair with a married lady of whom the youngest child would have been maybe 2 or 3 when the affair started and ruining that family showing complete disrespect and disregard for another man’s family and children so young – he would lose my respect and admiration….that is a coward of a man, a lonely, destructive, desperate man……
As for his brother saying they are good friends – I doubt greatly whether either brother would make such a comment as they are all very private people and wouldn’t do this….I can’t help notice that this comment came from a fan who doesn’t believe Viggo and AG are together……because I believe the opposite I could say “I’ve got a friend who knows Viggo’s brothers and they said they are together”…it’s a biased comment that fits what they want to believe…….so I think we should ignore this completely and throw it out the discussion…..no offense intended.
@JayneJ
I need to clarify my comment about Viggo’s brother because apparently you didn’t understand it based on your response. First this was the comment I made-
“I do know someone that claims to know one of Viggo’s brothers and he stated that his brother says they are just friends and they have never been anything else. ”
According to my friend who lives in California,they are friends with someone who is also friends with one of Viggo’s brothers. They stated to me that their friend who is also “friends” with Viggos brother,made this comment to them (not to my friend). I know it sounds confluted but thats what gossip and hearsay is. Who knows if its true just like the photos that someone mentioned earlier. The second thing I want to clarify is my comment about some people having a closed mind-many of you are drawing the conclusion that it refers to Viggos sexuality. A closed mind can refer to many things. In my case I was talking about the fact that Viggo just might have been alone intentionally. That he doesn’t want a relationship with any special person. For what ever reason. How many of you have a good looking male co-worker that you are always trying to set up? Yet they never have a girl friend. So then people start talking and hinting that he’s probably gay. I have a co-worker like that,or should I say had. It finally came out that he was extremely relegious and that he was saving himself for marriage. How many of you are rolling your eyes in your head. He found a girl who finally he cared for and they are now happily married going on 10 years with 3 kids.
@MJ
Just because someone loves you does’nt mean you have to love them back. The comment that you made about Viggo could have had someone who loved him for him,apparently he didn’t love that person. Love has to go both ways for it to work. How many of us have had someone declare their love for us but we didn’t feel the same. Thats not fair to Viggo to say that because he didn’t love this person back that he deserves to be alone. I agree with spec,I think he’s alone because he “chooses” to be alone.
As far as the pictures from long ago, many people experiment with their sexuality when they are young. That doesn’t mean they choose that lifestyle as they grow older.
To Spec – I don’t think anyone is being closed mind about Viggo in any way. People have suggested that maybe he has been single all this time, others have no they don’t think so. Others have suggested that maybe there has been a woman (women) but they haven’t been seen at all with him – this is more than possible that someone who isn’t famous and doesn’t want to be can date Viggo without people knowing – why mroe than possible……I think he has just gone for one nighters – Josie D-arby comes to mind…we know he lied about that! So no one has been closed minded about that – just loads of suggestions from all different sides as usual….so nothing new or closed here!
*smile*
I did not mean to imply that VM fathered the youngest child – Forgive me if anyone thought that – I did not know the exact age of the youngest and thought perhaps after having her baby, AG might have been extra susceptible to VM – you know post partum depression – there seems to be a long time period between the children – trouble in the marriage before the birth of the second child?
@JayneJ
I never heard of Josie D’Arby until I read this blog however I know that at the London premiere of ROTK he spent several days in London hotel room with a female british sports fiqure of African descent. At least thats what was reported in people magazine and a few of the gossip sites.
All i mean by closed minded is that there are some here that think Viggo is Gay and they have never even opened the discussion that maybe he just experimented, there are also those here that are very confident that he and aridna are a couple, I actually think they may have been one at one time but I don’t think they are anymore. I quess we all need to be open minded enough to realise that we all may be wrong. Which apparently you are. I take it that you agree that any of these sceneros could be possible.
@ Spec – no it was a hotel in Paris and it was Josie and she is not a sports person at all, she was a childrens presenter and actress….there are photos of her in Paris with him. So it was stupid that he denied it.
Oh yes I agree that any of the sceneros could be true – but I think they are together still – I can’t imagine Viggo would have an affair with a married woman and then stop the affair AFTER she leaves her husband/children and then be seen with her….I think they are very much together, I’m just waiting for the next lot of photos of them together!!
Viggo didn’t spend several days in a London hotel with anyone. He was only in London for a day then a day for interviews and travelling to Paris for the premiere there.
Josie D’Arby bumped into him at the London premiere and he travelled to Paris the next day where Josie happened to manage to be seen outside his hotel. She walked past his car as he was getting into it to go to the theatre but was not at the premiere. She was never seen anywhere near him from that day to this and he very strongly denied ever being with her.
I think viggo no play with fans, this would not be nice at all, I think not he would do this. He may be gay, but I think not. I remember he look at Liv Tyler very nice but she had boyfriend so I think nothing happen. So I think not. I do not think he bi also.
I not know of other females but think it is possible not to have photo taken with a woman if she not want to be seen and be famous. So yes there others but we no see, it possibly I think.
Yes I agree – Love must be two people not one.
Guys I saw a photo of them together at the London premiere back in 2004. Is this Josie person black? because this was a sports person and she was black. It was in People magazine so i know it was legit. I wonder if I can go to there site and look up the DEC 2004 issue?
They were photographed together because she was legitimately there as a guest in London and was at the premiere and the after party. Viggo would have had his picture taken with several of the guests as has happened at other events. That doesn’t mean there was any more to it.
@Delores
So are you saying this woman they photographed him with and wrote the article were false? People magazine doesn’t usually print false info. Maybe it was in the Jan 2005 issue. I’ll go to the people website and see if i can look it up. The article made a point of saying that she was his date.
@Delores
Thank you for answering my post. I guess you kind of answered my question as to why VM has not been seen with any women since 2005. I guess some will speculate it is because he is seeing AG, but it can be for other reasons also. I was unaware of any gay speculation prior to the LOTR rumors. I think in this case that it is more likely he is bisexual then gay. I say this because there have been stories of him involved with women. You yourself said he had a relationship and lived with Lola, and that if he were in love with a woman he wouldn’t hide. It is possible that some men and women experiment with their sexuality when they are younger and then go on to date the opposite sex as they get older or it can also be as you stated that they become more comfortable as they get older and accept their sexuality. It can be either case. I was totally convinced that he was with AG but now I am on the fence so to speak. Unless there are instances that are recent and not several years old regarding his sexuality, I cannot fully believe at this time that they are not together. I have not heard of one single rumor regarding his being gay, that was after LOTR. I cannot believe there is another anonymous woman because no woman in her right mind in my opinion would hide from the world if she were his and not share in his triumphs or his life publicly. I must say that whatever he is it in no way changes my admiration for him. I do not care one bit. He is beautiful and that’s it.
@Speculator
Thank you for clarifying Spec. I thought Dominic and Evangeline were still together but I could be wrong.
@MJ
Whoever that woman was I can’t say she is that special because I would be most happy to live with VM in a box by a puddle!! I wish you could elaborate a little more without naming names.
@Jayne
I also thought that it would be best to deny the rumors, but remember it is only real news in Spain and with VM fans. AG is really not known outside of Spain, and with Spain’s soaring unemployment rate and an economy about to collapse the Spanish people have a lot more to worry about than these two. If they are together they will wait it out. IMO
To all
I don’t believe Josie D’Arby for one minute. VM denied it and there was no reason for him to lie. They were both single. He would just not have commented. I think she was after publicity and wanted to be seen with “Aragorn.” I can’t say that I blame her.
@JayneJ
Your right,I finally found the article. It was Josie D’arby in Paris that he was holed up for a weekend,thats what the artcle stated. I also found an article where it linked her and Gerard Butler-boy she sure gets around doesn’t she?
I believe vm is gay for reasons I posted but mostly because he is constantly alone at every public event. I can’t think of a single straight hollywood celebrity that keeps his woman or women hidden. A lot date women that are not famous and they don’t hide. Straight people just don’t act that way. Even if the woman is private and he doesn’t discuss her you still know about her and see her around. I don’t believe for one minute that he is all alone. That is just nuts, or that he hasn’t had a girlfriend in 8 years or that he only sees her in idaho, watertown and not LA or NYC. I guess he could be bi and with ari gil that would explain why he hides but I really don’t believe it. I think he is a very good friend to her and helped her after her divorce maybe with that danish movie role and then went to visit her in europe on his way to do research.
@argent
Perhaps he is,I don’t know him at all so I really couldn’t comment on his sexuality.
I haven’t had a date in 10 years. I also have never been married and I have no children. I keep to myself because its less complicated that way. I know alot of my friends that have had horrible relationships and I know only a few that have had really good ones. I can assure you I am not gay. The risks outweigh the benefits of getting involved with someone. I quess we all relate to another through our own lifes experiences. Thats why I can believe that Viggo has been alone since he and lola broke up. BTW, has lola found anyone yet?
I, too have been alone for the past 10 years – would love to have a boyfriend! I’m not gay either.
Sometimes it’s a problem in finding a person – could be with VM.
Saw this on the web about Christine R. http://www.fadedyouthblog.com/90077/viggo-plays-dad-to-his-girlfriends-kids
@ Cindy
That picture is about 2-3 years old. He’s godfather to one of the kids.
@Cindy
That supposed josie story is ancient history and he is just friends with cristina. All old news.
I know that the pictures are old – article said he was 50 at the time –
just wanted to see the pictures – how about the ones in Madrid and the ones in the park with AG?
I think the Josie D’arby thing did happen, because he denied it a year after and claimed “he never saw her in Paris” but the pictures were taken in Paris and they are the only pictures people have of them. She was NOT “just passing the car” as so many fans have tried to claim.
Christine R I think they are just friends and have always been.
The pictures in the park of just Viggo and AG are from Italy and I believe it was just the two of them and the photographer, whom they must have known was following them…I don’t believe anyone else from the film was there at that time, though again fans claim that others were there but just not caught on the camera – I think that is wrong….it was just the two of them.
I’m surprised nothing has come out of Viggo watching the world cup….
@JayneJ
I have 2 questions that I hope you will answer. First do you have a link to the pictures of them (Josie D’arby and Viggo) together. And second I don’t understand your comment about Viggo watching the world cup?? Are you saying you think he’s there? You make it sound like its a sin for him to watch soccer?? That doesn’t make sense.
I had heard that he did leave one picture for a day in order to view one of his fav teams who were playing in Europe. If Argentina were to advance quite well in the World Cup (maybe Denmark as that is his father’s country) then he might sneak off to see Argentina. Viggo did make a comment on Percival Press about the Germans’ first game in the cup….
@JayneJ
Whats with the comments about Viggo and watching the World cup? I don’t get it?
@ Scooby – don’t be so sensitive! what a silly little comment!
My reference to Viggo and the World Cup is that usually he goes and watches it in a pub or bar for the atmosphere – so I’m surprised he hasn’t been spotted and a candid photo taken……Denmark are out, Italy is out, Argentina are through as are Portugal. Spain I haven’t seen the results but I think they may be out too…..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/202986/There-Viggo.html
this is the article from the original paper that followed josie to the hotel where she met Viggo and stayed over the weekend…….many fans claim she was simply staying in the same hotel and was “passing” – this isn’t true. She does not speak French and would have no business/work in France and she also would not afford to stay in such a hotel….most the people in the picture are to do with the film and promotion etc….
Actually just generally I’m surprised there has been nothing of him….makes me think he is either in Madrid or barcelona hiding when not in Germany.
@ JayneJ
I agree with you about Josie D’arby. Shes the one in the People magazine article that I read about. I think it was Dec 2003 or Jan 2004 somewhere along that time line. People magazine isn’t a gossip magazine,they usually have pretty strong facts to back up their stories. It was in one of the small sections and it was just a comment not a whole article. It does make you wonder why he is denying it? Was he dating Lola at that time? Thanks for posting the pic.
I think that because of everything he says about respecting people and being thoughtful and caring and kind etc…..and with the image he gives out of himself – he doesn’t want people to know he has one night stands…..just like he doesn’t want people to know he could possibly be a marriage/family wrecker….basically it all implies he isn’t the person he claims to be and puts himself on a pedalstool….I think he will be his own downfall and bring destruction to himself and his career.
You can already tell he has lost soooo many fans and the websites/forums have either come down or gone stale. I think all this will hit PP badly this year, maybe he knows it maybe he doesn’t.
He doesn’t actually appear to do to well film wise either – he only seems to be working repeatedly with the same people – never anyone fresh, new or different…..I think that says more than you (general meaning – to all) realise.
According to a post at Twitter VM was spotted at the Madrid Airport on 6/24, but because it’s Twitter it cannot be considered 100% reliable. I must say I agree with Jayne this time, I think he is in Spain also, but it’s just my opinion, I don’t know if it’s true.
Well first of all if he is involved in wreaking a marriage, he’s not the only one. It takes 2 to have an affair and both parties are equally quilty if thats the case. All of this is simply speculation. Unless Jayne you know inside info which the others of us do not. Do you? Remember if you don’t have facts then its simply slander to lie and say someone did something that they did not. In addition if your relegious then you know its bearing false witness. I don’t know him or you so I only go by what I see.
Time will tell if its true and if thats why Viggo has spent so much time alone.
I don’t know about him putting himself on a pedistal,everyone that actually knows the guy says hes down to earth and that he is no ego Viggo. Perhaps hes trying to be a better person, we all have faults that we need to work on. I’m sure Viggo has issues with the opposite sex, alot of men do.
As far as the fan sites drying up,I don’t see that. I visit at least 3 of them and they have quite abit of activity each day. Especially now that hes doing some films (whether its with the same director or not) and he has a new book of poems and photographs out. I think with his films he’s reeeeaaaallly picky and when he finds someone he likes working with ,he sticks with them. Afterall Hidalgo, Appaloosa,Good, and The Road were all done by different directors. Besides everyone falls into a slump in their career, I think Croneneberg is simply pulling Viggo out of it. Remember John Travolta,after he did Grease his movie options became slim pickins for awhile,then after anumber of years of being stale in the movie biz, he does “Look whos talking” and it put him back in the spotlight, now hes huge.
Either way time will tell if Viggo is a home wreaker, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty. I work that way for all people not just Viggo.
@Ann
The company that prints his books is located in Spain. That Twitter you commented about also states that he was being “delayed” in the Madrid airport in Spain. It could be that he was in Spain for a number of reasons,it also could be that he had a lay over from another destination. Did’t Lupe comment that she met Ariadna in Barcelona, not Madrid? Also another twitter last night had him in Vancover, B.C. so who really knows where he is?
@speculator
You could be right Spec who knows? I know Twitter is unreliable that’s why I posted my reservations. As far as AG is concerned I do think she lives in Madrid, Barcelona was the town she grew up in so maybe she visits family there. Also has anyone purchased Viggo’s new book Winter Songs? I was wondering if someone would give us a review. Especially the poems.
Do you people need a rock to fall on your heads of course they are together. First she has a baby in 2005 so she must have liked her husband just a little to have a kid. She meets viggo and films alatriste. In 2006 they promote the movie all over the world and in every photo and look like they are ready to eat each other, in 2007 he gets her a part in appaloosa and the rumors start. In 2008 they promote that movie and again look crazy about each other and sometime at this point her marriage must be going downhill because in early 2009 she separates from her husband. They decide to do a play together when she cancels so does he and they are seen together in Madrid. They go on a vacation together to Iceland and what do you think they were doing there? Just buddies, yeh right. Then he goes to visit her on her movie set. Why did he buy that expensive home in Madrid what is there for him? He also takes a big interest in learning the catalonian language which she is. He has never been photographed with anyone since they met and just because there is no paparazzi photo now does not mean they are not together just not caught. Don’t you think it was strange that right around the time arianda separates, viggo is photographed with cristina r. it was a very public outing that he never does and I am sure the paparazzi was alerted. It was so out of character for him. Could it have been to throw suspicion elsewhere? The people that say they are not together just can’t stand him with a woman so they rather have him gay or all alone. You really think he is some poor sole living all alone for all these years. Give me a break.
First of Michelle your putting alot of emphasis on subjective info-the way they looked at each other? When he was at TFF with Maria Bello they looked really happy also. What about after he did that movie with Andy McDowell and right after her and her husband split,there wasn’t all this gossip back then. Second if you have paid attention to the twitters, back in December someone twitted about an emergeny call in watertown to the Mortensen’s home. Thats when they believe his mother had a stroke. He didn’t back out of the play right after Ariadna did, why put Dorfman and the new actress thru all of those rehersals just for show. Third,were you there in Iceland? No one has confirmed that it was Ariadna. Fourth, he was already in Europe doing research for his new movie,why not stop by to say Hi to a friend whom he may or may not have gotten help getting the part. Fifth, didn’t he have to learn the catalonian language for Alatriste? Sixth he was photographed with Christina R. back in the Spring of 2009, Ariadna and her husband separated back in December of 2009. For every story you put together,I can put a different one. I actually hope the guy finds love because its boring living on this earth without it but to accuse him without hard evidence just doesn’t seem fair. I didn’t say they are or are not together. I’m just willing to give people the benefit of the doubt. You seem awfully eager to prove they are a couple, why?
@spectator
He had to learn the leonese accent for alatriste from the Leon region of spain, not catalonia and second of all ariadna split from her husband early in 2009 since she already had her own place in december. Doesn’t it seem strange that soon as she met viggo her marriage of many years goes down the drain. I think they planned to do that play together and once she left it lost his interest and the reason for starting it in the first place.
@ Speculator
Regarding John Travolta, it was actually “Pulp Fiction” with Quentin Tarantino that brought him back. He got “Look Who’s Talking” because of his resurgence. I don’t think “Look Who’s Talking” has the type of impact to revive someone’s career.
Well, well, well. Aren’t Runningsmooth, Vibleo and Co. on good form these days. Still pretending to be other people while trying to wind up the Viggo fans then take a step back and have a good laugh.
The first thing you need to do dear Runningsmooth and your pals is to get your facts 100% correct and the second thing you need to do is to get lives that don’t involve attempting to destroy the reputations of two people you don’t even know into question based on the flimsiest of evidence. You have completely given yourself away on at least four occasions and your agenda is no different now than it was four or five years ago.
Fact: VM & AG promoted Alatriste in Madrid and a lot was made of some photos. What is generally ignored is that her husband was there also as was her brother-in-law and other family members and friends.
Fact: When AG arrived in Chile to meet up with VM & ADY much was made of a picture of Viggo greeting her at the airport. What is again generally ignored is that her husband and children arrived with her and were greeted by VM also. Just after that Viggo reccommended DT’s book at Perceval Press.
Fact: VM has owned his Madrid apartment for many years and has regularly visted the city before he even met AG. He has numerous friends there apart from CR & AG.
Fact: Josie D’Arby has attempted the same publicity stunt with other famous men and more than one have denied ever having been in a relationship that she has claimed to have had. Both she and VM denied it – he did so vehemently and called her ‘that British woman’.
VM doesn’t often confirm or deny things that involve his private life but on three occasions he has because the rumours have affected his life in a bad way. The first was to deny he had broken up the relationship between Gwynnie Paltrow and Ben Affleck, the second was to deny that he he was involved with JD’A and the third was to deny being involved other than as colleagues with CR & AG.
Runningsmooth, Vibleo & Co, you need to seek life elsewhere and stop trying to make something out of nothing just for the fun of it.
@ Spec – you don’t need to keep repeating that everything we say is speculation – we are all stating that it is in our opinion….you are covering old ground for no reason….
@ Michelle – we know…and that is what everyone is saying.
I don’t know the Mortensen family have never claimed I do…but I have met and watched Viggo at least 5 different times in 4 different countries… so Spec you need to stop implying something else. But I do know this – NONE of Viggo’s family live in Watertown – it was the town he grew up in – his mother spends time (possibly still does – I don’t know) between Upstate NY/Canada border and Sandpoint, ID (she moved to Sandpoint in 2005 – the house in Upstate NY is passed down from her father – Upstate NY I believe is the summer house and Sandpoint for the winter because she is near Charles). His father also lives in Upstate NY about 20 – 30 mins drive from his mother. So any stories of Viggo rushing back to Watertown are false 100% – common sense and internet searching can reveal these details.
@ Delores – Josie D’arby hasn’t been heard of since Viggo burnt her – she really does keep herself to herself. I agree with Michelle – you have a go at Josie because you don’t like the possible truth about Viggo….just like Josie is unheard of outside of the UK, AG is unheard of outside of Spain – but you aren’t having a go at AG about “publicity stunts” are you? Why not…?
As for David and the kids were with AG at the airport when she arrived at the airport and snogged (my wording!) Viggo – I highly doubt it….he doesn’t follow her around you know, he is very successful on his own and would have been doing his own thing else where and the kids would more than likely have been in school…..this theory of “AG’s husband and children were right there next to them” is the exact same thing as “josie happened to be walking past” – it’s fans making things up and interpretating them how they want to think it happened. It is doing the VERY thing that a lot of you are claiming some of us are doing “making things up or seeing things how we want to”….I’d bet my life and mu children’s lives on the fact that David and the children weren’t there – show my pictures of them all and I’ll show you pictures of Viggo carrying a suitcase in to AG’s house to stay………..
This is a little off topic, but I have been reading the reviews of VM’s book Winter Songs on the other sites. The fans are saying that it is filled with love poems that deal with intense love and longing for a love that is filled with complications, where the lovers are separated by distance. These are not my words since I don’t own the book but are on the so called “legitimate sites.” As an amateur poet myself I know full well that this in no way means he is speaking of AG, and there are many other complexities about writing poems that I will not go into here to avoid boring those that are not interested. But I can already see the wheels turning in people’s minds that these poems were written with AG in mind from some of the comments being made. VM is a very smart man he must know that the content of these poems will fuel the fire of these rumors. Does he just not care? Delores if you are out there I would like your opinion or anyone else’s.
BTW the one’s I have read that are reprinted on the sites seem to be gender neutral, this should make argent happy.
Saw a comment on Youtube from someone who said they got an autograph from Viggo and felt kind of bad for bothering him because he was with his girlfriend… so somewhere out there is a woman who gave a fan the impression that she was Viggo’s girlfriend. I have no idea who it was or where they were at the time but I thought it was interesting anyway.
Oh by the way, the comment from the fan was about 7 months old and he/she said they were excited because they had “Just gotten the autograph”, hmmmm
Christina – where is this fan based who got the autograph…..I have to admit there is a woman who has turned up in a lot of photos “with” Viggo….for example Iceland, Denmark and the USA I thought maybe she was his girlfriend…I know some people approached her in Denmark, as I did but she said little…but no one has mentioned her so I haven’t…..she certainly isn’t famous….just her face kept popping up!
Where can we find these poems….though when he writes them in Spanish and his fans translate to English I feel they will interpret his words in the way they see fits, which could actually be different to how he would interpret them….
The poems are in his new book and are translated by him so there can be no suggestion that these are fan translations open to misinterpretation.
@ Delores – where can you find them then at this time? As fans are already reading them? I’d have thought they would have kept them quiet until after the book is for sale so the first the fans see of them is when they buy them….
JayneJ – I’ll send an email to the person on Youtube and ask where he/she was when he/she got the autograph. I’ll let you know if I get an answer.
Hi Christina – thanks. What is the link to the Youtube video and I’ll watch that in the meantime! Thanks
JayneJ – The comment about the autograph was from a fan leaving feedback about a video called “10 questions for Viggo Mortensen”. I don’t know how to copy a link but it should be really easy to find. I was reading the fan comments when I stumbled on the comment about getting an autograph from Viggo while he was with his girlfriend. It will be interesting to see if I get an answer to my email!
Hi JayneJ – Well, the plot thickens as they say. I got a response to my email and the guy said he saw Viggo at a supermarket in Watertown. He said Viggo visits Watertown a lot and is very nice and is known for donating money to local causes. He said Viggo asked him where the cranberry sauce was and that he recognized the voice from LOTR. Since the post on Youtube is about 7 months old that would make it around Thanksgiving last year which would make sense (about the cranberry sauce… lol). The guy said he found out Viggo went to the same high school as he did. I thought it was interesting that he saw him in Watertown since you were pretty adamant in one of your earlier posts that Viggo would have no reason to visit Watertown. The fan from Youtube is under the impression Viggo has family there. Maybe he is just yanking my chain, but he seems sincere. Oh, btw he said he didn’t know who the girl was that Viggo was with so I’m not sure why he thought she was his girlfriend. I asked in my email but he didn’t answer that question…
@ JayneJ
You can buy the book at Perceval Press and though it says avaialable from 16th July they are actually dispatching books now.
@ Christina
Take no notice of those who say he wasn’t there/ Viggo does have family in Watertown and he and his mom were both there through the end of December, January and February. There were around eight or nine independant sightings of him there during that time including one by the mayor.
He would go through Watertown (and any major shopping trips – food, clothes, other – would have to come from Watertown) yes – but Grace doesn’t live there – it is all of an hour from where his folks live…..he may have other relatives there, but I haven’t heard this – but neither of his parents or his sisblings live in Watertown. Do an internet search you can discover it for yourselves.
I’ve been in the areas his folks live and people ‘pop’ to Watertown for what they need….so the guy may well be right, no doubting that he saw him at all. My point is simply that his parents do not live in Watertown.
Thanks Christina
@ Delores – there is no proof Viggo has a place in Spain it is only rumours, but fans assume he has…..at one time it was said he had a place in NZ but he hasn’t. Google and search things for yourself….don’t just believe or assume.
Just wanted to point out that one doesn’t need to have relatives in a place or own a home there to spend time. If he went to high school in Watertown and has fond memories of the place he may go there a lot, who knows.
Okay, you are splitting hairs. His mother and he live JUST outside Watertown. It is however better to say Watertown and refer to the general area than to make it widely known where he lives when in the area.
He does have a place in Madrid and that isn’t from hearsay or rumour.
@JayneJ
Sorry I’ve been offline for the last 3 days so I haven’t had a chance to read all the comments until today. I only have one comment and thats to you JayneJ. You scare me, can you say the word “S-T-A-L-K-E-R”? You’ve seen him in how many countries,and you know where his family lives? After reading your post I can understand why celeberties freak out about fans. Everything I’ve learned has been through the internet, I sure as hell am not running around the globe following anyone. The fact that you are sooo confident about where his family lives would scare the hell out of me if I was him. I’m a fan but not an obsessed one, you are!! To know that info and to be so confident. This is my last response on this blog, this subject has gotten into the wierd zone.
Ditto on that comment!!
Calm down Spec (again!) – I work as a Art Journalist (sometimes – freelance) Europe is easy to get around so it is to cover these things and is part of my job. Go into the forums and I’m sure you’ll find fans who have met him double that times that I have and it isn’t part of their job…..so don’t attack, that is just stupid…..listen to yourself.
The locations of where his parents live where given in the articles that covered the death of Gray and Lisbeth. Again as a Journalist I just read things well and retain information.
Any other questions? Of a sensible/serious nature I can answer for you without any unwanted/needed attacks?
@JayneJ
Sorry I agree with Spec-you have issues lady,reread your post. You can lie to yourself if you want to but its quite obvious that you have issues. Europe is not easy to get around,in fact these days it is quite costly. My brother is a photojournalist and he puts out alot of money to go to photo shoots. He had one last month in Spain and airfair alone was over $2100, he usually gets re-imbursed but only if he sells his photos.
Scoobydo – I think you also need to calm down….
It is no one’s business how much my husband and I earn or how much money we have….please do not assume you know anything of our businesses etc. If you find Europe expensive, I’m sorry. But for many of us – it isn’t…..everybody is different and to assume our financial statuses are the same is grossly misleading yourselves and leads yoursleves down the wrong path…..
Europe has become a tiny place nowadays and is open for anyone within certain European Countries to live and work in any number of Countries…..for example – anyone can live/work in England, Portugal, Spain, Germany, italy etc without any problems if you are from one of these countries…
I think perhaps your attacking messages are far more worrying – your need to turn on people is terrible. especailly if you don’t like what they say. This will be my last response to your attacking, because it isn’t fun or nice and i find the topic we are all here for so much more fun and interesting…..if you wish to fan bash return to the forums…I will not join you. And have already replied politely to what are fast becoming insults from nowhere and without provacation.
Let me give you an example. I’m assuming as your $2100 is in US dollars the flight was from the US……that is around (give or take) Euros 1800/maybe £1700. The average flight from the UK to USA starts at around £300 (min, winter time and depends on where you go – usually NY)/$700 and can go up to average £500/$1000 to max £1600/$3100….all depends on the time of year, the carrier, what class, which State etc….so that is up and down all the time.
I will give you no more of my polite and respectful time with your assumptions and insults. I would very much like to get back to the discussion at hand…..and that is what it should be, not a platform for your bashing of fans (of any kind in your opinion) or insulting of others. You don’t see anyone else doing it….
@JayneJ
You really are a piece of work aren’t you?! So nice of you to grace us with your presence. I never mentioned your finances. Your the one who brought that up. But since you did, why don’t you throw alittle of that money to Haiti,in fact why don’t you make good use of the gifts you’ve been given and go do some volunteer work down there instead of brow beating us about your knowledge of viggo and his family. You obviously don’t have to work so seems to me that you have the time.
Jeez people chill out. There’s no reason to pile up on people. This is supposed to be a fun discussion. If you don’t like what a person is saying, ignore them. There’s no reason to take any of this this seriously.
@Delores
Delores, I know you don’t answer my posts and you won’t this one, but here goes. I have a feeling that you are a long term member or moderator of one of the large VM sites. Having said that I have no idea who you are and neither does anyone else. You are totally anonymous like the rest of us. Only VM and his lover, family and closest friends know all the aspects of his life and well it should be. But I know that the moderators of these sites know quite a bit. I know you don’t like the postings on this board and the people you think are behind them. So now is your chance to put an end to it once and for all. You stated you do not think VM and AG are a couple and he did not break up her marriage. Is this true and why do you think this? You never specified. I believe you know and have good reasons to why you think so. Is he dating an anonymous woman, you do not need to identify anyone or an anonymous man as you have strongly hinted? I believe you have some if not all the answers, but have been vague. As I have said before please end this before we reach 400. If you are precise I think everyone will believe you. I know I will. I am not asking for anyone’s name. Please think it over. Thank you.
@ Ann
I have been a visitor to several boards for many years and that is all. I don’t moderate at any of them because I prefer watching from the sidelines.
Anything I say won’t put an end to anything as well you know Ann. The people who want to perpetuate the gossip for a variety of reasons and with whatever agenda will do so. The so-called evidence these people use to support their argument is flimsy and Viggo himself answered a question to an interviewer that denied the rumors. Those who had been so convinced that it was true couldn’t and wouldn’t accept that and set about trying to give more so-called evidence to try to prove he was lying and a lot of people have bought into that because they also wanted the relationship to be true. For that reason alone I won’t try to justify why I don’t believe the gossip. People who are blinkered don’t want to hear anything that doesn’t support what they want to be the truth.
@Delores
Thanks for getting back to me. I am sorry you feel that way since I for one would have liked to hear your comments and I am very open to hearing the truth as opposed to constant speculation and I think there are other cooler heads on this board that feel the same. But I know you won’t change your mind. Hello 400!!!
@ann
Don’t be so naïve, delores knows nothing like the rest of us. Only viggo knows his life and he ain’t talking anytime soon.
I think people get mad here and this should not be.
Someone say Europe is expensive and JayneJ say not – this is where money is said. I live and work in Europe but it is not expensive. I have been to USA – it can be expsenive to get there but it is cheap for me also.
I not understand why people who are against Viggo and AG being together can give words and explain with links e pictures. But people who like Viggo e AG together can not give words and explain. I do not understand this.
I read some people attack other fans and say “you lie” and things like that. But the fans who be attacked do not attack back. But how do we tell who lies and who does not lie. How we believe one type of fan – who attack and not another fan – who not attach people.
En 1 message someone attach people who are not even here I see no messages from these people. I not understand how people can do this and it is not about Viggo e AG so I think I may not understand I have lost many messages because I not visit here.
@ argent
You wrote :-
Don’t be so naïve, delores knows nothing like the rest of us.
Delores never claimed anything of the sort but Delores is intelligent enough to read things carefully and to take into account the small details that make all the difference that are either overlooked or conveniently ignored by those who wish to mislead and misrepresent in order to lead Viggo’s fans up the garden path.
Who cares if they had an affair! Some married people cheat, she wouldn’t be the first. I thought they were together many years ago when I first saw the two of them pictured together. Who really cares? People say things all of the time and then do the opposite. We all want others to think we are good decent people, but we are human and make mistakes.
I agree Quangena, maybe they did have an affair and then maybe they didn’t. Even the strongest of people make mistakes. They’re usually the ones that are most tested. Whatever is or has happened between VM and AG is between them, their families, and God. VM is still a great actor and I will continue to watch his films. To bad about Argentina in the World Cup but there’s always next year. Go Crows!!!
BTW, I love the little stuffed crow that he carries around with the cute little scarf. What ever fan gave that to him, Kudos to you!!
@Moonstruck
I agree, I think that bird is adorable. But someone said it is really a penquin!
@Delores
That was my exact point Delores. You do present an intelligent point of view. That is why I asked for your opinion in the first place. I think it would have made a difference, but it is your choice not to present it and that is that.
You just gotta love a guy that loves penquins!!
@ Moonstruck: You are clearly a Viggo fan who follows the football because of Viggo’s own interest – rather than your own. There is no chance for Argentina ‘next year’ because what the rest of us football lovers are watching is the football World Cup and it ONLY takes place every 4 years – hence it is such an amazing, huge and wonderful event…..you Viggo fans are simply watching because Viggo will be and he has several countries (like many of us) that he supports. But I really don’t think you guys have any idea what you are watching or how it works.
Another fan on another site – at the start mentioned “bad games” because no goals were scored – completely and utterly bollocks. The stages work on a point system but Viggo’s fans wouldn’t understand that…..because the don’t understand the concept of (a) the game and (b) the actual competition
I read this site once a week and LOVE the conversation that goes on, but have no need to join but comments about football will bring me in straight away!
For the record and to make this message worthy…for what it is worth I think Viggo and Ariadna are together and have been for years….but hey ho it happens. But I agree he shouldn’t lie about it…and certainly shouldn’t use his mother.
Ok NatalieWales your right, why do you take offence that I am watching the World Cup b/c Viggo is interested in it? Do you need a badge all because you are a avid soccer (football) fan? Couldn’t you have simply been nice about it and educated those of us that are just learning about the sport rather than be so caustic? Thank you for letting me know that the World Cup is only every 4 years but you don’t get a gold star for your delivery. Take a course in being nice!!
@delores
I never said you think you know it all. My post was addressed to ann who seems to think you do.
I was browsing twitter and i see vm has his own twitter page. This can’t be true but there it is. Can someone else check it out? I think i might be hallucinating. I think he would hate twitter. Can you image him twittering LOL I ‘m sure someone else will do it for him.
Guys! Any chance some of you can point me in the direction of a good Viggo Forum/Discussion board?
Thanks in advance……
@Ursula
I like to visit some of the sites to find out about VM’s film and book projects but I never posted on any of the discussion boards. I just never wanted too, Sorry.
I too visit sites and pick up info on Viggo around places – but don’t go into the forums, in the past I’ve had (and other Viggo friends) bad experiences in them. So for years now I haven’t gone near them and have no desire to.
I am on myspace.com and joined the Viggo Peter Mortensen page – they are soooooo friendly there. I asked if the page was Viggo and they said no quote “he would never have the time, patience or interest for such a thing” and I have to admit I believe them so I doubt if he is on Twitter. they say they don’t know him and don’t have contact – but their answers sometimes make me wonder……
Happy 4th July!
@JayneJ
Thanks for the info Jayne. I went over to the VPM site on my space and it said it was private. How do you go about joining? I checked out Argent’s VM sighting on Twitter and it looks for real. They have Perceval Press as the web address. I am sure it will be one of the PP staff updating it. Let me know what you think.
I read those vm sites but never posted. They look very very unfriendly. Like they are too good for everyone else. Very pompous people. I might try this myspace site.
I’ve visited most all the sites, so far Virtual Viggo seemd to be the nicest and most openminded bunch. They get some great news articles also. You just have to join Yuku
Heres the link to join:
http://virtualviggo.yuku.com/
Runningsmooth and Vibleo touting their VPM page I see.
You could always try Viggo Works
http://www.viggo-works.com/index.php?page=243
@ Ann – I’m not on Twitter so I can’t see join….but Virtual Viggo are on there, they are fans. My friend NikiA joined there and they accused her of not being who she is or where she is and banned her. Just like that. Wouldn’t touch them for that. Carolina300 was soo nasty, I even read Niki’s emails from her – it was so shocking.
@ Delores – There is only Ann and I that have mentioned myspace.com page. So I don’t understand your comment. But I do notice that your comments are always negative ones so maybe it is for the best huh?!
Update – I see you can get to the Twitter Viggo page if you google it and go in that what. Nah…no way that is Viggo – opens the page and comes back later to say thanks for following to 12 people when nothing has been put up?!! Maybe I’m missing something, but I think I’ll go back to believing that he wouldn’t have the time, the interest or the patience…….It’s just some fan thinking they are clever…..I doubt Viggo would use some random photo of himself off the internet either. He would use a picture of his own of himself not no one has ever seen! That’s just my opinion……..he wouldn’t have copies of magazine pictures that were taken of him and wouldn’t take to the internet to find one! LOL Common picture = a fan.
..gosh am I the only one still here??? Is that because all the other messages were by just one person – and she can’t be bothered anymore?? @ Delores
Or did common sense prevail?
@JayneJ
im still here. there is no news to comment on. i think vig is out there doing his thing but the paps have no interest or he is hiding. to think we are all one person is nuts. when you reach your 50s in hollyweird you are no longer big news unless you were a super star to start with and vm is not. the next big news will come from spain if he is there.
Thanks folks!
I was just browsing for a fix and found this on flickr,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8658945@N08/4767899468/
Doesn’t he looks so strange with brown contacts. I still would though…………
@ argent
He isn’t hiding. He was seen twice last week.
@ JayneJ
She and her friends are still around.
@JayneJ and Argent
I think that it is a slow news time right now and there is no new “girlfriend news” that is why the board has been slow. Everyone has their own opinion and there is no proof either way right now. At least I don’t know of any.
@Ursula
I agree I could care less about the brown eyes. I prefer the blue but he is still great.
@Delores
Where was VM spotted? I would think he is still in Germany filming. If the sighting was on twitter, I have decided I am not going to believe a word of it since they last reported he died which was horrendous. I think that twitter is highly unreliable.
I think he must be thrilled that Spain won the World Cup. Perhaps he was able to be in Madrid to celebrate.
Hi – oh I think this is a nice why to just generallykeep anyone updated with news – I like it!
I’m sure he is happy about the World Cup – I am! Though Holland have never won it either.
@ Delores – Can you explain more about the people you talk about please? And where and when he was spotted last week…though I tend to only believe if there are pictures.
@ Everyone – I’m not keen on the brown contacts – I thought there was something dodgy about that picture….looked to much like my late grandfather – it was wierd!
Welcome back
There won’t be any pictures because of the tight security on set. He is still filming. There were a couple of newspaper reports.
He couldn’t have been in Madrid for the celebrations as he they were filming on both Saturday and Sunday.
It has been rather slow on any news – did see pictures posted on someone’s blog of the film – can’t wait to see it!
I’m sure Viggo is quite happy with the World Cup – wonder if he got to watch the final – great match – a bit messy but a nice win for Spain.
Bit messy – he Dutch were desperately dirty!!! Two of theirs guys shoul have been sent off – that is not what football is about. Even if Spain had of played badly they would have desevered to win! If it had of gone to penalities – that would have been upsetting!
I’m sure he got to watch it, maybe not down a bar though if he was working…but regardless he could have listened to it.
@JayneJ – totally agree! There were some very risky challenges and the players should have gotten a red card! Spain kept their composure tho and they were the better team.
Wonder if he got to watch the Argentinians go down in defeat? And what team was it that had a player from his fav team in Argentina?
I hope VM was able to watch the world cup finals. Judging from the PP website and the fact that he lives there, he must be thrilled that Spain won although it looks like Argentina is his favorite team. Unlike VM, I support the USA and I was very happy they played so well, Maybe next time we will get lucky and go even further. Too bad, we have to wait four years to find out.
Also, there is actually some “girlfriend news” on Google. It is from a Hungarian site. The Google translation is not good but it appears they are saying VM and AG are presently living together. I don’t know if it is reliable or if that is an exact translation. Delores you are good a deciphering this stuff. What do you all think? I am sorry I could not paste the link but it is at http://www.femina.hu or Google News under viggo mortensen and ariadna gil. It is new, they mention the filming in Germany.
Germany knocked out Argentina – they have an excellent new, young, strong attacking team – which has just thrown other teams…I dunno which country any San Lorenzo players were playing for but I know my own team WBA had around 10 or so players involved in the world cup team – none of them in the England one though!
Spain in the past like a few other teams used to dive and do silly stuff, but I never remember them playing dirty. You certainly wouldn’t get dirty play from Torres. So it is no surprise Spain didn’t lower their standards, they have no need to!
In the Argentian team Messi is the god send and again he is so clean cut you won’t get anything bad from him either. Uruguay of course have Forlain as their hero. Wonderful players – a pleasure to watch.
I still dunno about Viggo having a place in Spain. But I do believe he would live with AG. Such a sorry state of affairs I feel.
I have kept the translation 100% as it came out:
Viggo Mortensen as the 1958-born enchanting blue eyes has dozens of film, admire, despite the extremely low figure Sarmas celebrity is involved mostly dramas trillerekban
his acting career relatively late, at the age of 27 he began to witness his little thriller, which, inter alia, Harrison Ford was a partner and a romantic movie, entitled Wild passions demonstrated his talent
From then on almost every year, appeared on the screen, most of the domestic audience of Lord of the Rings Aragonjakent remember. The lucky ones live talakozhattak him for months in 2008 as Good’s film shot in Budapest.
The 51-year-old is one of the few who even looks good in the graying temples, and his face Szanto grooves can enhance masculinity appear to be increasing with age szexibb
Naturally attractive Hollywood udvoskeit not let cold. Since punkenekes divorced his wife, Exene Cervenkatol whom she had a son born in 1988 in the brain reversed, inter alia, Josie Bisset, but Gwyneth Paltrow is. Since 2006 living with actress Ariadna Gil
I think this is nothing new and is based on the photos from Decmeber and him at her house….old news…..they are just picking bits and pieces and re-stating. We need something new to eat on……
Based on them claiming they have lived together since 2006 it’s a load of made up twaddle based on bits and pieces some junior researcher has found on the internet.
@Delores and JayneJ
Well one good thing, they didn’t get that from here. We never said they were living together.
To everyone:
I ‘m sorry this is o/t but can anyone tell me who those men are on the pp website for july 7? One picture is benjamin netanyahu the israeli prime minister but I cannot make out the other three. sorry again for going off the topic
On is the Spanish National football team coach, one is the Dutch coach and the other is Noam Chomsky.
@ Ann
Quote:
I hope VM was able to watch the world cup finals. Judging from the PP website and the fact that he lives there, he must be thrilled that Spain won although it looks like Argentina is his favorite team.
The fact that he owns property in Spain doesn’t make him a full time resident there.
Viggo isn’t a full time resident anywhere – makes it a hard pill to swallow that he then owns 3 houses and 4 cars! He is beginnging to look VERY much like your average Hollywood star. Don’t tell me he’ll be in Sex re-hab next.
If he and AG are living together – then they clearly have been having an affair these past couple of years. You don’t just shack up with someone who has spilt with her husband on the off chance the r’ship might work.
If he is living with her in her house he hardly needs his place. He is clearly a pretty wasteful man.
@delores
Thanx for the info
@ Jayne
In an interview a couples of years back he stated he didn’t own any cars. Even one. Why would he say that? What the heck is going on with this guy? Can you believe anything he says?
I’ve already said I think he is a liar. He clearly owns quite a few – the pick up, the merc, Henry’s one and I read on another forum somewhere he owns a Hummer…..If he owns a property in Spain I would have though he would have a car too. But when he was staying at AG’s in Dec she was driving him around.
I don’t think you can believe anything he says no. I stopped buying things from PP in Dec and won’t buy anything from them again. I just won’t buy from someone who is dishonest and actually doesn’t have any respect for people, he just “pretends” he does. But nothing changes the fact that he is gorgous and sexy, he just appears to not have such a nice personality and charact which is sad. Funnily enough my husband and sons have never liked him! LOL
@Delores
I didn’t mean to imply that he lived there full time only that he does live there even if it is only some of the time. From what I have read VM used to rent when he went there and then I guess he decided to buy an apartment in Madrid. According to the ladies on one site he spent more time in Spain last year than any other place. He supposedly spent the first three months of 2009 there. Those are not my words but their words. This is not proof that he is with AG, but he obviously likes the country a lot since he bought an apartment there and PP has a lot more posts in Spanish then it did before. I know some of that is because of San Lorenzo also but not all of it. I know you must have seem this article that was posted I believe on VW where he states, regarding the language of his poetry, that he has been with a lot of Spanish people lately and in Spain speaking countries. Again this does not necessarily prove he is with AG, maybe he as someone else there. Who knows, we probably never will.
@Jayne J
I don’t believe we will see any new pictures of VM with AG or anyone, anytime soon. He is not the type of guy the paparazzi follows around at least not in the US. I agree with Argent on this. Everyone here is obsessed with the young and upcoming stars, like the Twilight guys. I think those pictures in Spain were an exception and we won’t be seeing much else, unless the Europeans take the photos. We might never know if they are together or not or who VM is with.
To Everyone
I think VM must have a car since everyone in the US practically does even young teenagers. You could not get around LA or Idaho without a car. You can get around NYC without one, but I am sure in Upstate NY you also need one. Maybe AG drives him around in Spain because he never got an international drivers license. But there was a picture of him on the net driving in Argentina after a San Lorenzo game.
Just an FYI, Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem got married recently and I was reading an article that she never admitted that they were together and would only said they were friends. Some suggest that we are calling VM a liar, but this is done with stars all the time. No one is calling Penelope a liar.
A Hummer? Seriously? Once again, he always talks about saving trees, won’t print a PP catalogue because of that, even said he owns land in Montana just to make sure it stays a forest. If he owns a Hummer, I can’t begin to state what a douche he would be. This is why he demands so much privacy. He’s a total hypocrate.
@Jayne
My husband has been a therapist for 11 years, and has always said there’s a BS factor to this guy.
here’s the first pictures from A Dangerous Method – lovely pics!
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/05/first-look-viggo-mortensen-and-michael-fassbender-in-david-cronenbergs-a-dangerous-method/
I see someone on Twitter has said she spotted Viggo in South Dakota “20 hours ago” so around the 19th/20th July…..this maybe true if he is driving from NY State to Northern Idaho or vice versa…his “happy travelled” in the past….unless of course he is 100% in Germany…but I guess we won’t know
If Twitter is to be believed – Viggo is presently in Ohio and is driving east – as he was seen 6 hours ago in Cleveland at he Rock hall of fame with a CVS bag……
@JayneJ
According to Twitter VM was in Cleveland earlier than South Dakota. The poster just sent in the post six hours ago but did not say when he saw VM. He posted an article from a Cleveland newspaper on the PP website a few days ago. He was seen only an hour or so ago in South Dakota. He is working his way west from NY to Idaho. Although the filming in Germany may still be going on VM might be finished with his part. They don’t mention he is with anyone.
You know what Jayne, listen to the two of us mapping out his trip. LOL LOL what nuts we are!!
The route is easy enough…we know the NY – Idaho…..I’m not on twitter I just look through google so I think I’m limited to what I see……be good to put a tracker on him!! LOL
Well until next time Ann!! *big smiles*
Orlando Bloom and his girlfriend Miranda Kerr got married in a small ceremony it was reported today. I hope this finally puts to rest those ridiculous Viggo/Orlando rumors from LOTR.
About cars. Henry’s one is obviously henry’s and pick-up is his brother’s wife’s – it was mentioned in some interview. never seen him in merc and Hummer. But he was seen in his mom’s toyota a few months ago (at service station). So I’m pretty sure he isn’t lying about his cars at least.
Seems filming will be finished today – so perhaps Twitter is correct (for once) and he was done before the others and is on his way across the states – why would he drive? Wouldn’t flying be better? Of course if you are like me and don’t like the airport gestapo, driving is better.
I would guess he has decided to travel at a leisurely pace and do some sightseeing. Even thought he was seen by himself on Twitter, I think it is highly unlikely he is alone. It is the kind of trip you share with someone unless you are a real loner, IMO
@ Nadusha – with all due respect – Henry bought his own car did he? Please! Henry lives off his dad – his income(s) will never cover his outgoings……he is no different to the Lola’s or the Paris’ of this world….
The Merc (silver) is the car that he was seen with (with Brigit). The pick up is his not Walters or Sylivas, it is his, which he has been seen with the most. The Toyota Pirus is his(/Henrys – if you wish me to be kind!)….there is 3 cars…..and the Hummer is by all accounts in Idaho. We never see pictures of Viggo there – just hear things……
I’m assuming Viggo wasn’t invited to Orlando’s wedding either….or he just didn’t go. I actually don’t think they are as close as they as Viggo’s fans make out, anymore…it just doesn’t work that way, life moves on.
Hi everyone,
I just discoverred this board very recently and would like to join the speculating a bit.
I actually never believed in the Ariadna rumour, at least not until they were seen together more often at the end of last year and beginning of this year. But – who knows, if the woman in iceland f.e. was really AG. I also can imagine, that there are people on Twitter f.e., who just state sometimes also untrue things and make fun of others.
I find much more interesting the posts from Christina and JayneJ from June 28th and 29th. There is written about a woman, who was with Viggo seen in Iceland, Denmark and the US. So when were these sightings, this year or earlier? It was also said the woman was approached in Denmark by people, but didn’t say much. So was this when the Roskilde exhibition was or later or on which occasion in Denmark? And how did this woman look like, I would be interested in that. Maybe she was one of the women he was seen with already years before, f.e. at Thanksgiving 2005. But maybe she was somebody completely different.
There was also reported from this YouTube poster who saw Viggo on an Q and A session, got an autograph and had the impression Viggo was with his girlfriend. And then a person reported (it was said he answered e-mails of people here on the board) he also had Viggo seen in a supermarket in Watertown around Thanksgiving last year. This is so confusing. So, was the person on the Q and A event and the one in the supermarket the same one? That’s strange. It’s actually a riddle for a detective. I don’t want to repeat everything which was written here before.
Anyway I really find it interesting to get an idea who the person could have been who was reportedly seen with Viggo in Iceland, Denmark and the US and how she looked like and when these sightings were. Any ideas?
Hi Welcome! The reports about the Canada sighting were in Feb and he was in Kingston at some shop….
I dunno the Q&A session you speak of – nor the youtube – have you got a link?
The female I’ve personally seen plus in photos was in Denmark, Iceland and USA..I’ll see if I can google a link..
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/93118529.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D0F1B4E34E11D59931DFE29CACF8353DF705799808BA32F3C0E30A760B0D811297 try this link…the female I’ve seen before and she always seems to “be there”……
I don’t know what you mean about Viggo answering people’s emails on here, that I don’t believe at all either.
I think Christina said the guy who saw him in Watertown didn’t say naything about the female Viggo was with…..
@JayneJ
Which female is it? I only see one with dark hair next to a man in the back and one that is almost totally covered by VM’s hair. You can barely see her face and she is behind him. Don’t forget that VM is surrounded by PR and media people whenever he is at a professional event and most of these people tend to be women.
maybe….she is over his left shoulder. I tried to find the pictures from iceland and denmark but the galleries re down or closed from where i saw them…..she on a lot of photos from the fans in vw gallery..
I didn’t say, Viggo answered e-mails here, I meant, in these posts from end of june (from JayneJ and Christina) was said, the person, who saw Viggo on the Q and A event, was sent an e-mail and this person answered you people.I’m afraid, that’s all quite mixed up now, because it’s some time ago. I really don’t want to chew on everything again. The woman on the picture is not to recognise, because she is behind Viggo’s head, no idea, who she is. could also be one of the handling people. But I really would like to know, on which occasions she was seen in Iceland and Denmark. Was this when the exhibitions were in 2008 or this year? I can’t remember having seen someone special or “suspicious” on the fan fotos in vw gallery.
….I think the link for the photo I put it up is from last year…the Iceland and Denmark lady I’m thinking of was 2008….Do you know where the Denmark link is in Viggo works and i’ll look for you and find a link……..
… Do you mean a link for the exhibition event in Roskilde 2008? I don’t know, I checked VW, but have no idea, where there can be found photoes of this event. Btw, I’m also quite a technophobe….
I’m sorry, JayneJ, but I will rather beloeve him and journalist who have really met him re pick-up ownership. And re Henry’s toyote – when you give your teenager son something as a gift it 1) stops being yours and 2) doesn’t make your son “paris hilton”. You obviously biased agaist Viggo and his family for whatever reason which is weird as you don’t seem to have any real personal connection to them.
@ Nadusha..if you ae in for an argument your facing the wrong direction. If you want to believe everything Viggo says (regardless of whom that info comes through) that is also up to you…..and I also believe what I please – do don’t get nasty in any form shape or manner please….I’m not interested.
This is a discussion board and everyone is allowed to believe a discuss whatever they wish – regardless…..
I could just as easy throw out that you are 100% biased towards Viggo – this goes both ways…so please don’t walk that path…..
Viggo has (in my eyes) already proved several times that he is more than capable of lying and has done on many occasion.
Ann-why would Orlando’s wedding put rumours to rest? The rumour mill says that Miranda is preggers. Viggo went thru the same thing with Exene and that certainly didn’t stop the persistent gay rumours about him. Have you ever read his poem “Communion”? Written during LOTR filming–check it out–it should answer any lingering questions about his “mysterious” sexuality. I think the guy enjoys fanning the flames. His message to Dennis Hopper on the PP website contains 3 pics from “our walk around Amsterdam….you made us laugh..” Who’s “us”? Well if you look closely there is a woman’s left hand in the pic–looks like Ari’s to me. So what is it? Odd years females? Even years males??? I’m confused–seems the only one who’s not is Viggo!!
I think it is probably Lola’s hand – she turns up in loads of Viggo’s stuff even to this day….in the Spain ones in 2005 everywhere……I don’t think AG has hands like that..and it looks too young to be the hand of a 40 yrs old woman.
@Cster
As I said in my post I HOPE, it will stop the rumors, which I never believed for one minute. I have read Communion and see no reason why it could not have been written about a woman. There is not one word that specifies that he is writing about a man. There may be posters on here that believe he is gay, but I am not one of them. I have never seen one piece of information on the net or anywhere else, that confirms this only rumors. It has been posted on here that there was evidence from years ago that is no longer available. That is not proof of anything to me. So as far as his “mysterious sexuality” is concerned, there is no mystery to me, he is straight, period.
Regarding Dennis and that picture in Amsterdam, we really do not know who that hand belongs to and probably never will. Did you ever think that it was Dennis’ wife? They were together then (a few years ago) and she is tall and thin like Ariadna.
Yes-it could very well have been Dennis’ wife. It’s just that I notice people’s hands and having seen several youtube videos with AG’s hands–I thought there was a
definite similarity.
I am really new to Viggo world–have only had an overwhelming interest in all things VM for 5 months or so. So I have not had the time to do the Phd. level research of some of the other posters-but-I couldn’t help but notice his insistence that basically “life is short-have all the experiences you can”–would that not include being open to relationships with both sexes?
I’m just sayin’
@Cster
The comment Viggo made was
“That life is short and I have to make the most of the time that I have.”
Jan 21, 2010 Sydney Morning Herald
He was giving an interview about what doing “the Road” made him realise.Who among us that isn’t getting older, doesn’t start realising that time is short and things are coming to a close so make the most of the time you have here on earth. He doesn’t mention “experiences” he just says make the most of what time you have left. We can all internalize this into what we see as important. You know such as make sure you spend time with your family and treasure each day as something special.
For what it’s worth, the Amsterdam pictures were all taken circa 2001 so it is highly unlikely that the hand is AG’s.
@ Ann
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It has been posted on here that there was evidence from years ago that is no longer available. That is not proof of anything to me. So as far as his “mysterious sexuality” is concerned, there is no mystery to me, he is straight, period.
That is because you want him to be straight and that is OK. You can only ever have fantasies about him anyway and it is fine if in your fantasies he is straight. That doesn’t make it true. There is actual evidence that points to the very strong likelihood that he is gay or bisexual.
VM being gay won’t change any of your lives so it isn’t that important really. It only affects fantasies about someone that none of you can ever have so if you don’t want to believe he isn’t straight then leave it be and go on with your dreaming about the straight Viggo that you want him to be.
@Delores
As I have posted before, I could care less what VM is; my admiration for him will not change. However, just as you think it is wrong to comment on VM breaking up AG’s marriage on not enough evidence, I will not comment on someone’s sexuality without ANY evidence. You have stated that there is evidence but I have never seen one bit of it and we both know that you are not going to produce any, so that is that. If it is from long ago and is now gone then that to me is not proof. It has nothing to do with fantasy, which you can do no matter what the person’s sexual persuasion is.
As far as the pictures in Amsterdam, I have no idea whose hand that is, but are you sure they were taken in 2001. That would have put them right in the middle of the LOTR filming. It looks to me like VM is in “Everett Hitch” mode. Why would he have that hair, beard, and moustache for Aragorn? It looks more like 2006 or 2007.
The pictures from Amsterdam were definitely taken in 2001 and the one of Viggo and Dennis on Perceval Press was taken separately and was taken in Venice, LA.
By the way I have never said it is wrong to discuss AG & VM and I have only given my opinion that I think the rumors are untrue.
..someone recently commented to me that Viggo has released a poem called “what’s said” or something similar (in his new book) and he speaks about being in love and being a thousand miles from this person, and he mentions her injured finger an what he would like to do go her….AG had an injured finger in early 2009 (at the Goyas) – I think the person who sent me this info is amazing to spot this! And it could well be proof that he and AG have been together for ages…..to think David allowed Viggo into his house and fed him – and this is how Viggo returns the man’s kindness…terrible…..it is also noticed how AG wasn’t at the Goya’s when she has always been before – but was possibly spotted in Iceland with Viggo at the same time as she shold hav been at the Goya’s.
I think they are together, and have been having an affair for sometime. In time it will come out.
@Niki
You are sooo right! I read that poem too. It is called “what’s said” and it’s in his new book of love poems called winter songs. In the poem he speaks of being a thousand kilometers away from his lover and how hard their separation is to take. In the poem he describes his lover as having an injured finger. I read your post and went and looked up the 2009 Goya photos and there is ari gil with an injured finger! It is all bandaged up. Gee what a coincidence or maybe viggo knew a lot of people with injured fingers last year LOL.
@Delores
Thank you for the information regarding the photos.
I’m wondering when Viggo will publish AG photos (her own book) through PP, or perhaps her brothers music through PP…..
With Niki’s info it looks more and more like the affair has been going for for several years…..that is just wrong.
If this is true – well, my heart is broken! Sigh…. and on my birthday too!
Well, I guess we need to be careful about holding people up on a pedestal – it’s a long way down, eh?
@Cindy
Happy Birthday to you!!! Forget about Mr. M for today–go out–be happy–take care of YOU!!! Find JOY Leo girl–you deserve it–as do we all!!!
@Cindy
Happy Birthday! I agree with Cster, go out and have a great time. I am sure VM was not sitting around thinking of us on his birthday!
Cindy – Happy Birthday!!!! To right forget VM completely and forever….he is simply a fine example of a man you don’t want!
Cindy, joyeux anniversaire!!
I don’t know, I just have the feeling that AG is not Viggo’s girlfriend, if he has one, I always had that feeling. Though, the thing with the hurt finger is quite an “interesting” detail, but maybe it’s really just conincidence.
Anyway, if really came out, that they have had an affair for years I would be very, very, very dissappointed by Viggo. I dont’t want to describe detailed, what I would think of Ms. Gil then. I would think of her even much worse, mildly spoken. It’s right, that there always belong two people for something like that, but fact is, that she is the one, who had family and had the responsibility of two children, one very small one.
If this is really true, it would explain to a certain extent, why Viggo is always making such a big mystery about his love life: because he did something very bad and forbidden for years. I still dont’t take it for true. Maybe I also don’t want to.
I also simply can’t imagine, that he’s such a liar, regarding that interview he did in march this year for the argentine magazine, where he denied both roumors concerning Gil and Rosenvinge: On the other hand – shortly after that he made this strange post on PP about “lying”. But it would be so horribly absurd if he contradicted himself publicly on PP after this interview. I simply can’t imagine that.
I still would like to know, who this woman was, JayneJ mentioned, who she saw with Viggo in the US, Denmark and Iceland and how she looked like. Was the dark haired or blonde f.e.? For me still despite all it’s more likely that Viggo is with someone else than AG.
Hi Lakshmi…..what post did he make on pp about lying – I must have missed that….can you tell us. I do remember the Argentina interview though but I think he was just referring to Christina. I now also reckon he spent that time she Christina justifying his actions with AG – because David Trueba now stands where Christina once did but this time Viggo is to blame…I can imagine he is losing friends over this or certainly his friends are disappoited in him for his actions.
I can’t find fan pictures of Denmark and Iceland anymore so I can’t show you, if someone aims me in the direction of photos I’ll have a look. She has brown hair, brown eyes.
Enjoy yourself and the weekend
Words are but symbols for the relations of things to one another and to us; nowhere do they touch upon absolute truth.
—Friedrich Nietzsche
This is the post that he made though it doesn’t mention lying it impies that words don’t always mean the truth.
Here is Viggo’s poem “What’s Said”
“I always tell you whatever I am thinking without considering the danger. I capsize, fall towards your mouth, and live on your permission. Your gaze moors me, comforts me. Thousands of kilometers away I feel you are open, smiling when I describe the things I want to do to you. I see your stretched neck, injured finger, and cracked lips. Want you to see me as I am, confess each detail of this hunger, rejoice in our blood, and get closer with each drop I spill, that you spill. I say everything, and you listen. I know I may regret it, that some kind of harm awaits us, that there is danger. We are doing fine now, but in essence …..Yes, there is danger.
You cleaned the remains of our uprooting on that strange bed of other dreams quickly and well with a wet cloth but the water left another stain, heart shaped. Perfect, Remember? Look, I said…..Yes…..See? Yes…..What you made! Yes my love, I see it. I am broken and you begin to realize how little I serve you this way. But I am yours. I returned last night to see where we’d lain, and the heart you unwittingly drew on the light blue coverlet, it dried, leaving only the pale shadow of your hand.
What do I do with this grief, and what do you do with yours? We are imprisoned and united by the business of our separation. We cannot help each other. I am dragged by exile, injured by the sky. My bones ache from ignoring so much…….. In silence, in taxis, planes. In the street, alone and by the phone when others sometimes call and hang up without daring to mention what they’ve already understood. My eyes are grey scars, feeble shadows that have no idea how to illuminate what ails me and where I carelessly put my head.
How do you manage not to call me now? Before, you could never help yourself. Before, you did so constantly and at all hours. It saved me. I suffered but knew you were in an exact place. Seated, naked, alone, surrounded by……newspapers and books. You would tell me how your day had gone, that today. Imaging it filled me, satisfied me for a while, helped me find the ground, sleep, wake up without you, ready fire and water, live. What will I do without your hands? I’ll encounter other breezes, another summer under another sun, while you enter your night. When it’s my turn to see new stars, or the lack of them, little by little I’ll get used to it.”
@Niki
I am not an expert on legalities but I think you should have this poem deleted. I think you can send something like this privately, but publicly you are only allowed to copy small parts, it has something to do with the copy write. I could be wrong does anyone know? I would delete it to be safe.
Thank you for my birthday wishes – yes I enjoyed myself… spent some time alone (I’ve no problem with being alone most of the time) and crocheted…. I’m learning to belly dance and I make costumes and things – any who ….. from the poem and all, it does seem that VM has been with AG and this is not good but alas – it is not our right to judge – that belongs to God – as my fav preacher, J. Vernon Magee – we are fruit inspectors….. looks like we got some bad fruit in AG and VM…
@ Ann – you can’t delete anything on here….mistakes happen, the site hosts can remove it I guess if they want. But I noticed ages ago there is no button to edit or delete.
@ Niki – Don’t worry about it.
Hope everyone has a good weekend……
I think AG’s daughter is at the age where she is probably a whiz on the computer. It is bad enough that this poem is in a book where maybe a few thousand will see it, now it is on the net where millions will. I don’t think speculating on dating is bad, but this poem is very detailed as to the lovemaking. If it was written with AG in mind, and if very much looks like it, I think VM should not have been so graphic knowing that kid would read it. Then again maybe I am just being old fashioned and the “artist” crowd thinks it is all so wonderful. I know they think so over at the other sites they have no problem with this poem.
This is my first visit to this board. What wonderful conversation and thoughts I am reading1 I like MJ’s comment here: I implore men around the world to prove me wrong. Stop being so pathetic guys. Have some self respect by respecting others. Your “little guy” will lose his power one day, and all you will be left with is your legacy of your treatment of all humans.
VA:F [1.1.5_471] SO TRUE!
Ann, I have no problem with this poem either. I don’t consider myself to be an artist, but I see many different people in this poem. Many different loves. I do not own the book, but the two poems I have read do not seem to be about any one person.
@Turtledove
I really hope you are right TD. I would like to think VM would not be so blatant and graphic especially if children of the object were involved and could possibly be upset by it. I think children of stars are probably used to dating speculation and gossip surrounding their parents it may not be right but it kind of goes with the territory and I am sure on the other hand there are also great perks that go along with being a child of a star. I am sure they know most of it is nonsense anyway. But when it comes from your parent’s lover that is quite another thing. I think the flow of the poem indicates one person and that seems the way it has been portrayed on other sites. That “finger” quote is very interesting; buy may very well be coincidence. I would really appreciate it if you could give us your thoughts on why you think it may be more than one person. I enjoy discussion without fighting.
I agree with delores that vig is probably gay or bi. That poem could have been written about anyone. Speaking about poems I am more interested in communion and why cster thinks it has gay undertones. I always thought it was written for orlando. Cster are you out there?
I’m sure AG’s children accept Viggo if they are hanging out with him, I’m sure because he is a “big” Hollywood star they won’t hate him…it’ll make them look great with their friends……or perhaps AG is keeping the seperate for now – which would be wise…but the kids most know, I doubt they are stupid. I’d like to think that she isn’t having Viggo and the children play “happy family” just yet….
I do think it is bad that Viggo makes it all so obvious in the poem, especially as it was written when AG and David were still together.
I’m sure AG probably has a copy of the book or the poem anyway – Viggo always gives his own books out as presents….so the children could find it from anywhere….my concern will be more for David and how hurt he must feel and continue to feel…..the children will move on in the way kids do..because it involves their mum and they love her…..but David, it’s different – he let Viggo into his house, fed him and what no doubt a perfect host little did the guy know Viggo would thank you by sleeping with his wife and breaking his marriage/family……
As said before so many times – it is all very sad…..
I don’t think Viggo is bi or gay and I don’t think the finger this is a coincidence either……I think that is perhaps another excuse that Viggo fans like to use so they don’t accept what is going on.
IMO what’s said has a very distinct singular flow to it. I don’t believe it was written about several different people or experiences. the poet is taking us through this particular relationship. believe what you want about whom it was written for, but I say one person.
“the poet is taking us through this particular relationship”
The poet is not talking us through anything. He is describing bits and pieces of a love affair.
@Anne – thank you for the invitation of discussion w/o fighting.
Because these are bits and pieces of this “love affair”, I see different references in different lines.
A cracked lip, a hurt finger, these are common enough things, but also common enough to be attributed to Ariadna or anyone.
He has said recently that he has been in love many times. I think Viggo is the type of artist to conglomerate many loves and write the best love poem he can. I am grateful he has written these and translated them for us. This is an amazing gift.
@Turtledove
Thank you for your thoughts TD. I hope you are right. I always like to think the very best of VM.
“I’m sure AG’s children accept Viggo if they are hanging out with him, I’m sure because he is a “big” Hollywood star they won’t hate him…it’ll make them look great with their friends……the children will move on.”
@Jayne – I think her husband might move on more than the children. Maybe after 15 years the marriage was lacking something. But, the children, that’s different. No love lacking for their mom and dad. I think a big Hollywood star to a five year old means nothing. Not having your mommy and daddy together at the same time does. A weekend parent is terrible. Or one week here and the other there. They don’t get over that easy. I can give you plenty of examples, and I don’t think celebrity children are any different, except maybe being a little bit more separated when a parent is filming a movie. But I read, that wasn’t the case with Ari. When she went on location her husband and kids came with her. Oh, and their dad’s famous too in Spain.
David Trueba and his brother are famous all over and world (not just Spain) – something AG is not!! David is also a writer…..I’d heard of the Trueba brothers long before I heard of AG……she only appeared because of Alatriste…..
That doesn’t make sense. Surely, if you had heard of the Trueba brothers you would have had to have heard of Ariadna as they both cast her in films and David was/is married to her.
No….not at all…I didn’t say I had watched their films!
David’s brother Fernando Trueba has been famous for years, decades….and his films have been part of the Spanish film culture long before AG was an actress….and often in response to the Franco era…..but I’ve never watched their films. I have simply heard of the brothers because of Fernando….and his impact on the culture of Spanish film.
Hi, haven’t been here for a few days. The post about “telling lies” Viggo made on PP appeared a few days after that interview from Argentina came out, in which he denied both roumors concerning Rosenvinge and Gil. It was a quote from any poet or somebody he posted and I don’t remember it word by word. But the quote said something like:” Telling lies means wanting to do damage to someone or doing damage to someone”. So to say, maybe he wanted to say, telling a lie, which does not do damage to someone, but is protecting someone (in this case AG) is justified, but that sounds very weird. Anyway, to me it appeared a bit strange and my first thought was, he wanted to justify his lie, the denying of an affair with AG, in this interview by posting this quote. But then I dropped this again. It would be so absurd if he made a correction of a previous lie in an interview publicly on PP. That’s absolutely not realistic and totally weird. So what remains then is, that he maybe did not lie in this Argentina interview. But I have no idea what to believe in the meanwhile.
I think, if the quote has anything to do with the published denial, it is only to confirm the damage rumors do.
I don’t see any reason why Viggo would take the trouble to deny something that was true. In fact, he very rarely confirms or denies anything in the press, but usually gives purposely ambiguous answers.
IMO, if he took the time and effort to deny these rumors, and in the style he did, practically quoting Ariadna’s agent’s previous words, it was important and true for him to do so.
@turtledove
Relationship or love affair whatever you want to call it, I don’t see this poem being about multiple people or loves. I don’t know who it was written for, but it has a very singular, straight forward theme to me, IMO.
@ Rose
Everyone’s interpretation of poetry is different. Good poetry at least. If it was so “obvious” then there would be fewer people who could read their own stories in the words, no?
Could be about one person. Could be about many. But, the important thing, I think, is that you read it and it means something to you.
…@ lakshmi you wrote – “But the quote said something like:” Telling lies means wanting to do damage to someone or doing damage to someone”. So to say, maybe he wanted to say, telling a lie, which does not do damage to someone, but is protecting someone (in this case AG) is justified, but that sounds very weird”…….but he is doing damage to David and the kids, especially if his marriage parted because of Viggo and then publicity Viggo is claiming it isn’t true….at least David never denied AG for whatever reasons……
But as you say it is all very odd!
Here is the quote that was posted at Perceval Press:
Buglelover
July 30th, 2010 at 5:50 am
Words are but symbols for the relations of things to one another and to us; nowhere do they touch upon absolute truth.
—Friedrich Nietzsche
it just says that words do not always say the truth. I think he is saying that although people spread rumors about what they see and here, they do not know the absolute truth of what the relationship is between he and Ariadna. I don’t think he would have anything to gain by denying the rumors. He could simply say nothing, as Ariadna’s agent did, and achieve the same thing.
To Everyone:
I must say at least in this case, I am not at all convinced that he was thinking of AG when he posted this quote. I think VM was throwing yet another jab at our politicians or world leaders regarding false words and not believing everything one says as truth. I believe some of the poems have a connection to her, but not this quote.
Interesting thoughts, Ann. It may be interesting to examine what was posted around this quote to get a better clue as to what it is referring to.
..True True – I agree Ann possibly….but he could also be aiming at AG – to justify saying he “isn’t in a realtionship with either Christina & AG”…..I mean if someone I knew was dating someone and I heard them say to someone else, they aren’t dating – I would query it……so perhaps he is protecting himself and justifying his “lie” to others in connection with AG. But it could also be aimed at the old Government – any Government or any country!
“What’s said” is about lost love (like all new poems from VM latest book Winter Songs). So if you think it’s about AG then you should accept that their relationship went south a while ago as he was working on this book since 2008.
“Imaging it filled me, satisfied me for a while, helped me find the ground, sleep, wake up without you, ready fire and water, live. What will I do without your hands? I’ll encounter other breezes, another summer under another sun, while you enter your night. When it’s my turn to see new stars, or the lack of them, little by little I’ll get used to it.”
…@ Katie…working on the book since 2008 (around when a lot of us feel the relationship begun)..but you can add poems at any time, and at any moment (last minute for example)..the poem about the fingers is clearly AG – you have to be stretching things to think it isn’t…..so that would be have been written in Feb 2009 and added to the bookover a year after he “started” it……it doesn’t suggest the r’ship has gone south at all. It does suggest that she didn’t call as often as she used too….but then she may have been trying to deny things to David and was giving her children priority over Viggo at that point….doesn’t suggest an end to a r’ship at all – not in my eyes….anyone else?
iF you think it refers to AG circa feb 2009 then it’s really weird that he’s missing her calls that much as they were together like every day back then rehearsing for The Purgatorio in Madrid.
And you think that their relationship started around 2008? Not in 2005 when they were filiming Alatriste? Not in 2006 when they were globetrotting promoting it? Not in 2007 when they were filming Appaloosa and when Un Beso des Esos was written (presumably)? Not in 2009 that they spend reharsing for Purgatorio? But in 2008 when they had nothing to bring them together? I’m genuinely surprised.
Heavens I hope it didn’t start in 2005 her 2nd child would have been months old – that you be terrible…..even worse for poor David and the other child….well there must have been something going on or I don’t think they would have done Appaloosa – but I guess I am just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt….that and having lost track of time,…..I think it was when they were promoting Alatriste in Italy/Madrid things may have been playing on their minds…and then it moved to appaloosa etc and then as we know it…..
What is Un Beso des Esos about – can you quote it? Or show us where to see it – why do yu pick on this piece of work? I think the play in Madrid was confirmation they are having an affair. The last straw for David. I think V and A are very much together…
And I think they’ve broken up as V agreeing to play Freud in David’s movie was a last straw for Arianda who finally have realised that she can’t break them up and them (V and D) publicly kissing and dancing and hugging looking adoringly at each other and whatnot all these years wasn’t just friendship and mutual artistic artistic admiration.
Un Beso des Esos is Viggo’s spanish love poem, very intense and beautifull. Some people say it’s about Ariadna too.
I’ve been so slow – even with 6 kids running round me!! It is summer holidays….so AG’s kids won’t be at school now – this is her chance to spend time with them – while V is in the US – which might suggest they don’t know that Viggo and AG are involved and they simply consider V as “mummy’s friend” not knowing he is the one that spilt their parents…
She hasn’t worked for ages which is unusal for her from what I can see….she won’t be able to take the kids out of Spain or far frm Spain (if she can at all)…..so I reckon even her kids don’t know about V and AG………
I would be surprised if they have broken up after she finally spilt with her husband….after he got her the Danish movie…..it wouldn’t surprise me to find her in the Argentian movie Viggo is supposed to be doing…..I still reckon he’ll find her more work either through his own films he is in or through friends………I still reckon they are very much together.
If one day I ever find out I’m wrong, I will happily fly Viggo to where ever I am in the world and apologies to him to his fa